Hi, I got discharged from selection a week ago and I'm really frustrated for not knowing why.
Three days before the comission I got called and sent civil. I still needed to do the psychologist interview and tent test. Caporal-chef said the reason was probably Gestapo but he didn't know exactly why.
My background: brazilian, 36 years old, medium fitness level, unfinished college, upper middle class (my father is a procureur de justice). Succesful brothers (one procureur and one medic). Worked shitty jobs all my life, mostly as computer technician. Never served the military.
It was my fourth try at Aubagne. The first 3 I didn't make it to blue because of luc leger as I weighted 90+ kgs. This time I made palier 7 (could do 8 but I made a mistake I was the only guy doing the sports test, the caporal-chef was talking to a caporal and I thought he said something to me when I crossed the line near him, I stopped for a few seconds looking at him, when I realized he didn't talk to me I tried to catch up the time by running as fast as I could to the other side, I made it before the beep but my energy was depleted). After I did 7 perfectly executed pull-ups (usually I do 10 but after luc leger is harder).
When I signed the contract I asked to see my result of psycotechnique: 96,37%.
I went civil in a monday, I did gestapo the week before, like 5 days before I think. The gestapo guy (spanish guy did all the interview in french) interviewed me for 1 hour and said it was finished I could go back to paradise (blue's paradise). The night before, I answered a questionnaire by putting some basic information about me and my family.
Here's how it went: first he made me pee on a cup and asked if I did drugs before coming: I said I smoked a joint one month before. Then, in his office, he asked me the jobs and date of birth of my parents, brothers and my french girlfriend. Asked where I lived and I said I lived in France as an illegal since my first try in Aubagne in November 2016. Found a french girlfriend in January 2017 and lived with her in Marseille in 2017 and in the countryside with her father. Worked small jobs like cleaning houses, moving furniture from houses, gardener, cutting grass and trees in farms, etc.
He never questioned me why I came for the legion. He asked me if I could speak english better than french and I said yes (I mentioned my known languages in the questionnaire) then he said: " tu parle tres bien français". Asked me if I had problems with the police and about debts I responded negatively. Made me pee again on the cup and asked me the frequency of the joints I smoke, I said it was rare maybe 1 every month, but in truth it's not even that but I was a bit panicked didn't know exactly what to say.
After I finished gestapo I thought it was great for me, I didn't lie about anything. A few days later I was wondering why it was so short, all my camarades where having long sessions for 2-4 days in gestapo.
Some days passed and monday I was expecting to be called for psychologist interview. When they called me it was for gestapo again! I waited there for my turn and the same spanish guy appeared again asking for anyone who could speak spanish or french, I said "me". He asked me what I was doing there, because I was finished he said, I said I had no idea and he sent me to paradise. A few hours later I got called again in the rassemblement, this time to go civil. I was shocked.
I worked really hard when I had to (got some 10's as score, sometimes the caporals tell you your score), volunteered many times, spoke 3 languages fluently (one caporal-chef at a job asked if I tried the french regular army before or came straight to the legion, I explained to him I couldn't because I am brazilian, he said he believed I was french because of my french!).
I was determined to become a legionnaire, I was gonna endure n'importe quoi for this chance of becoming someone proud of myself, someone my french and brazilian families would be proud. I really believed I was going rouge!
And, suddenly, 3 days before comission: definitif "ton profile ne correspond pas au besoins de la legion etrangere". I was shocked, until this moment I'm shocked.
2 years dreaming about this and it's over for me. I feel like my destiny was set the day I decided to be a legionnaire, didn't matter how hard I wanted, because of my family background and some stupid joints that I smoked while drunk I was chasing an impossible dream.
One week after leaving Aubagne, I still dream almost every night that I'm in Aubagne, with my discharge papers in my hand, begging for another chance but I'm always speechless in the dream I can't talk to anyone.
I'm leaving for Brazil, gonna marry my french girlfriend there in 3 months (she is so happy but I'm not because I failed the legion). Then I'm coming back to live with her in France with a renewed visa. Gonna continue training to be as fit as possible and gonna send a letter to the commander asking for a new try (caporal-chef said to do this). I know it's a long shot but I just need to try.
Anyway, why do you think I got discharged?
I believe it's about my age, drugs, good options in life. Any insight will be appreciated.
Three days before the comission I got called and sent civil. I still needed to do the psychologist interview and tent test. Caporal-chef said the reason was probably Gestapo but he didn't know exactly why.
My background: brazilian, 36 years old, medium fitness level, unfinished college, upper middle class (my father is a procureur de justice). Succesful brothers (one procureur and one medic). Worked shitty jobs all my life, mostly as computer technician. Never served the military.
It was my fourth try at Aubagne. The first 3 I didn't make it to blue because of luc leger as I weighted 90+ kgs. This time I made palier 7 (could do 8 but I made a mistake I was the only guy doing the sports test, the caporal-chef was talking to a caporal and I thought he said something to me when I crossed the line near him, I stopped for a few seconds looking at him, when I realized he didn't talk to me I tried to catch up the time by running as fast as I could to the other side, I made it before the beep but my energy was depleted). After I did 7 perfectly executed pull-ups (usually I do 10 but after luc leger is harder).
When I signed the contract I asked to see my result of psycotechnique: 96,37%.
I went civil in a monday, I did gestapo the week before, like 5 days before I think. The gestapo guy (spanish guy did all the interview in french) interviewed me for 1 hour and said it was finished I could go back to paradise (blue's paradise). The night before, I answered a questionnaire by putting some basic information about me and my family.
Here's how it went: first he made me pee on a cup and asked if I did drugs before coming: I said I smoked a joint one month before. Then, in his office, he asked me the jobs and date of birth of my parents, brothers and my french girlfriend. Asked where I lived and I said I lived in France as an illegal since my first try in Aubagne in November 2016. Found a french girlfriend in January 2017 and lived with her in Marseille in 2017 and in the countryside with her father. Worked small jobs like cleaning houses, moving furniture from houses, gardener, cutting grass and trees in farms, etc.
He never questioned me why I came for the legion. He asked me if I could speak english better than french and I said yes (I mentioned my known languages in the questionnaire) then he said: " tu parle tres bien français". Asked me if I had problems with the police and about debts I responded negatively. Made me pee again on the cup and asked me the frequency of the joints I smoke, I said it was rare maybe 1 every month, but in truth it's not even that but I was a bit panicked didn't know exactly what to say.
After I finished gestapo I thought it was great for me, I didn't lie about anything. A few days later I was wondering why it was so short, all my camarades where having long sessions for 2-4 days in gestapo.
Some days passed and monday I was expecting to be called for psychologist interview. When they called me it was for gestapo again! I waited there for my turn and the same spanish guy appeared again asking for anyone who could speak spanish or french, I said "me". He asked me what I was doing there, because I was finished he said, I said I had no idea and he sent me to paradise. A few hours later I got called again in the rassemblement, this time to go civil. I was shocked.
I worked really hard when I had to (got some 10's as score, sometimes the caporals tell you your score), volunteered many times, spoke 3 languages fluently (one caporal-chef at a job asked if I tried the french regular army before or came straight to the legion, I explained to him I couldn't because I am brazilian, he said he believed I was french because of my french!).
I was determined to become a legionnaire, I was gonna endure n'importe quoi for this chance of becoming someone proud of myself, someone my french and brazilian families would be proud. I really believed I was going rouge!
And, suddenly, 3 days before comission: definitif "ton profile ne correspond pas au besoins de la legion etrangere". I was shocked, until this moment I'm shocked.
2 years dreaming about this and it's over for me. I feel like my destiny was set the day I decided to be a legionnaire, didn't matter how hard I wanted, because of my family background and some stupid joints that I smoked while drunk I was chasing an impossible dream.
One week after leaving Aubagne, I still dream almost every night that I'm in Aubagne, with my discharge papers in my hand, begging for another chance but I'm always speechless in the dream I can't talk to anyone.
I'm leaving for Brazil, gonna marry my french girlfriend there in 3 months (she is so happy but I'm not because I failed the legion). Then I'm coming back to live with her in France with a renewed visa. Gonna continue training to be as fit as possible and gonna send a letter to the commander asking for a new try (caporal-chef said to do this). I know it's a long shot but I just need to try.
Anyway, why do you think I got discharged?
I believe it's about my age, drugs, good options in life. Any insight will be appreciated.
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