Hi. New South African member here joining in 2018.

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Hello everyone! I am very excited to be here and cannot wait to join the Legion in the year 2018.
I'm going to give you a short bio of myself and the current state I am in while preparing for the Legion selection.

I was born on November the 1st, 1998 prematurely. I grew up in Pretoria in a normal house until my parents decided to divorce then everything kind of went to shit. It was bad for about 5 years. After that 5 years I discovered exercise with my stepfather and I started growing and falling in love with exercise. I was a nerd and very fond of my computer technology and wanted to become a IT Engineer. In grade 11 I asked myself if that was really what I wanted to do. I decided no and started looking for jobs with adventure and found Military. I wanted to join the Royal Marines for a while but decided it will take too long and a lot of money. I discovered the Legion and started my research on it and decided I want to go there.

I am currently preparing myself mentally and physically. That includes long distance walks/running with weights, a variety of calisthenics exercises, learning French, reading a lot of books and posts on this site. The one thing I am stressed out for is the medical tests and the IQ tests. I don't think I am stupid but maybe not what they're looking for. As for the medical, I am big and don't have history of medical disadvantages. However, I do think that my blood pressure can be an issue. Currently it is 134 over 76. That is what I consider high. Next year I will be going to different doctors to do a check up to make sure the medical won't send me home.
I still have a lot of questions, but they do get answered on this site as a read. 😊
 

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Join the Royal Marines, if that is optional. If that fails, then turn to something else. Make the Legion a last option, still an option, just a last one. You have far too many ahead of you already.
 
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Swartjaak,

Welcome to the forum. I have the utmost respect for the Foreign Legion and THOSE who honour their contracts in full.

I nearly joined myself at the end of my short service commission from the ranks.

However I joined the Colonial Police on a three and one half year contact from the Crown Agents London.

As a former RM commando and subsequent officer I believe the RMs' provide an inspiring physical and mental challenge.

Join either, survive and you will belong to an exclusive club. So good luck.

Chas. 99% need not apply.
 

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Thanks for the replies . I really wanted to join the South African Military and go all the way up to Special Forces known as recces. The reason I don’t is that the political state of our Military is... well, shit. I want to serve in the Legion for 5-10 years and then go to another Military like the RM.
 

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There is no way to say you want to serve 10 years..

Turn "I wanted" into " I can, because I have the option". Go into SA forces and go Recces. Pack up your politics, keep them packed and go enlist. The one thing in the world that pisses me off is men who have the option to join their own forces, yet go off in a day dream to join the legion. If you read well between these lines, You will understand perfectly. I can bet you chas is shaking his head in agreement, However, I don't know this either, just a guess.
 

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Hello everyone! I am very excited to be here and cannot wait to join the Legion in the year 2018.
I'm going to give you a short bio of myself and the current state I am in while preparing for the Legion selection.

I was born on November the 1st, 1998 prematurely. I grew up in Pretoria in a normal house until my parents decided to divorce then everything kind of went to shit. It was bad for about 5 years. After that 5 years I discovered exercise with my stepfather and I started growing and falling in love with exercise. I was a nerd and very fond of my computer technology and wanted to become a IT Engineer. In grade 11 I asked myself if that was really what I wanted to do. I decided no and started looking for jobs with adventure and found Military. I wanted to join the Royal Marines for a while but decided it will take too long and a lot of money. I discovered the Legion and started my research on it and decided I want to go there.

I am currently preparing myself mentally and physically. That includes long distance walks/running with weights, a variety of calisthenics exercises, learning French, reading a lot of books and posts on this site. The one thing I am stressed out for is the medical tests and the IQ tests. I don't think I am stupid but maybe not what they're looking for. As for the medical, I am big and don't have history of medical disadvantages. However, I do think that my blood pressure can be an issue. Currently it is 134 over 76. That is what I consider high. Next year I will be going to different doctors to do a check up to make sure the medical won't send me home.
I still have a lot of questions, but they do get answered on this site as a read. ��
Howzit Boet, drop me a pm and I can help with some questions relating to us saffa boys.
 

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There is no way to say you want to serve 10 years..

Turn "I wanted" into " I can, because I have the option". Go into SA forces and go Recces. Pack up your politics, keep them packed and go enlist. The one thing in the world that pisses me off is men who have the option to join their own forces, yet go off in a day dream to join the legion. If you read well between these lines, You will understand perfectly. I can bet you chas is shaking his head in agreement, However, I don't know this either, just a guess.
I understand what you mean man. My grandparents were in the Recces and have a lot of awesome stories. They actually encourage me to join the Legion or any other Military. It is just that the quality of our military isn’t what is used to be and I don’t want to waste my time.
 

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There is no way to say you want to serve 10 years..

Turn "I wanted" into " I can, because I have the option". Go into SA forces and go Recces. Pack up your politics, keep them packed and go enlist. The one thing in the world that pisses me off is men who have the option to join their own forces, yet go off in a day dream to join the legion. If you read well between these lines, You will understand perfectly. I can bet you chas is shaking his head in agreement, However, I don't know this either, just a guess.
You have no idea about the political situation in South Africa. You can't get promoted because of the colour of your skin and you get paid about €300 per month at lowest rank. We once had a proud, formidable military. Today it is a typical corrupt and lazy African political tool. So no, joining the SA Army is not an option anymore. Also, if he wants to join the Royal Marines, and he's only a Commonwealth citizen, he has to live in the UK for five years first. So that isn't an option either.
 
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There is no way to say you want to serve 10 years..

Turn "I wanted" into " I can, because I have the option". Go into SA forces and go Recces. Pack up your politics, keep them packed and go enlist. The one thing in the world that pisses me off is men who have the option to join their own forces, yet go off in a day dream to join the legion. If you read well between these lines, You will understand perfectly. I can bet you chas is shaking his head in agreement, However, I don't know this either, just a guess.
DCLXV1 100% correct. This old fart concurs ! lol
 

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South African dude,

I have many ideas and am well informed on the political platforms of SA. One, I observe. Two, I serve with South Africans and speak often with then. Three, maybe you are not aware of French politics, either. I have met some really nice French kids (I say kids because they are 18,19) and my age now, I am literally old enough to be their dad. BUT, in the French forces, and maybe Rapace will provide more info, I remember speaking to these kids while training at Centac and you are only paid 500 Euros a month I think it is, was, for 1 year service. It goes up a little if you sign on more. But the point is, THEY were happy with their duties and their pay, seeing how they have a roof over their heads and are fed and have some pocket cash.
Secondly and apart from this first paragraph, Don't bring race into it. " Cant get promoted by color of skin"...Also, you have an option of RM and living there five years first, it is an option, and you refuse it. YOu speak and read and write English, have the ability, yet, don't want to be PATIENT and do so. The RMs is a far grand idea, and again, if you read between the lines, you would under what I am saying.. I see you have not, cannot, or otherwise will not and make it about you and all the reasons why you cannot, when in fact you can.
I think you are being picky and choosy. I think you have lots of options available, but want some instant gratification. You want the "Easy" button. You don't want to lay in some hurt and work. Just think about it. think about what you can create. And if ALL else does actually fail, then go for the Legion. I can tell you, LOADS of Anglos are leaving the Legion within 2 years, and not resigning. They just know...
 

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No problem man, you are entitled to your opinion. I believe that as actual South Africans, we have better insights into our situation. Yes, we have options, that's true, but that is why one does research on each option and chooses the (perceived) best option for one's particular situation. Personally I believe that the Legion provides much more opportunities and much better professionalism than our forces. I doubt that anyone thinks the Legion is the easy option. Anyone would want to build themselves a future. Why would you settle for an easier, lower standard job in the SA Army. Most people would like to be the best they can be. The hardships one goes through in the Legion just seem worthwhile when compared to (our) other options. I for one would definitely rather join the Legion for five years, clean their toilets and do all sorts of chores, but at least shoot a rifle and do exercise now and then, than to sit around in the UK for five years and hope you get employed somewhere as a cleaner, builder, security guard or something in order to join the RM's five years later. The guy wants adventure, not a gloomy day job for five years. He also has no qualifications, making it difficult to find employment elsewhere. However, the OP is still very young, he might consider studying in the UK for five years and then joining the RM's. That would be a very good option. But, as he stated, he doesn't want to go the academic route.

Swartjaak, you said you considered doing IT engineering. The UK armed forces train guys as telecoms and electrical engineers (well, technically they are technicians, not engineers, the engineers are officers (citizens) with degrees), but you'll still get combat training before doing the apprenticeship. Maybe you can have best of both worlds with this. They have made certain specialist positions like these available to us commonwealth guys without requiring the 5 year residence. They're having a bit of trouble recruiting enough people for those roles. You'll have to do your own research though, as these positions are periodically advertised as needed by them and roles available differ between the different branches (Army, Navy, Air Force). Maybe you still might want to join the RM's after five years serving as something else in the armed forces.

I do however think that in the near future they will start taking Commonwealth citizens without residency in for the RM's again. Believe it or not, but they have started recruiting women to be Royal Marine Commandos. Go check their website. This, to me, is a sign of desperation to hit numeric targets. I am hoping for this, as joining the RM's has been my dream since 2011. The 2013 rule crushed that a bit, that's why I'm considering to join the legion after I graduate next year, but hoping the RM's allow us in again soon.
 

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Well, I guess the South Africans I serve with that have prior South African service, must not be real South Africans... Hardship in the Legion? Not sure what you are talking about there...
 
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Don’t bother with the SA defense (can't call them a force), you are the wrong colour. (skin colour is still a big problem in SA, just been reversed). I do believe the Royal Marines are open to the Commonwealth countries again, that would be a better option.
 

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Agree. Yes, Commonwealth citizens can join the Royal Marines, but since 2013 it is on the condition that they must have been living in the UK for a continuous 5 years.
 

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Well, I guess the South Africans I serve with that have prior South African service, must not be real South Africans... Hardship in the Legion? Not sure what you are talking about there...
So if the SANDF is so great, why are they in the Legion? It's because there is no future for their kind in the corrupt and incompetent SANDF.
 
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Agree. Yes, Commonwealth citizens can join the Royal Marines, but since 2013 it is on the condition that they must have been living in the UK for a continuous 5 years.
I'm open to correction, but I heard through my Johnny that the 5 yrs has fallen away because not enough Brits are filling the posts.
 

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There is no way to say you want to serve 10 years..

Turn "I wanted" into " I can, because I have the option". Go into SA forces and go Recces. Pack up your politics, keep them packed and go enlist. The one thing in the world that pisses me off is men who have the option to join their own forces, yet go off in a day dream to join the legion. If you read well between these lines, You will understand perfectly. I can bet you chas is shaking his head in agreement, However, I don't know this either, just a guess.
I can certainly read between the line here, you are right. It is a tough thing to be turned away for something so small. I remember well the recruits I had get DQd for something so trivial and it is a permanent DQ
 

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(...) but, in the French forces, and maybe Rapace will provide more info, I remember speaking to these kids while training at Centac and you are only paid 500 Euros a month I think it is, was, for 1 year service. It goes up a little if you sign on more. But the point is, THEY were happy with their duties and their pay, seeing how they have a roof over their heads and are fed and have some pocket cash.
500 € per month after one year of service in the regular French armed forces ?! Sorry to say DCLXVI that those "nice French kids" you met at the CENTAC bullshitted you (or maybe something was lost in translation). The entry level solde (term used in French military for salary) is about the same as in the Legion so around 1,300 € per month, before taxes.
 
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The British Armed forces are once again periodically taking in commonwealth citizens (even if no 5 year res), you just have to keep an eye on their recruitment schedule.

I too am South African and it irks me how someone can call themselves SAcan and come on the web to slag off the country of their birth. Shows lack decorum, is in bad taste and am not sure how the legion looks upon such candidates. From what I have read in the legion you get treated like shit and you must smile and say thank you, not come to the web and cry endlessly about it. If you want to join the FFL just say you want to join no need to slag off a whole country.

The fact is there is NO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION policy in the SANDF. They do have an equal opportunity policy meaning a certain number from each demographic will be accepted, that translate to only the best of the best will get in. If you did not cut it man up and accept it. Hearing from a friend of your cousins son who didn't make the cut and now has excuses as long Dumbledores beard to cover his embarrassment is not fact.

Good luck on your ambitions to enlist swaarjaak, I hope when you get there you will show them how good of a candidate you are and avoid reminiscing about apartheid. All the best.
 

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At the moment the SANDF has a massive shortage of white males in enlisted roles, for 2016/2017 60% of their recruitment target had to be white males below the age of 22, alas I'm too old now....our Navy is still pretty good and are on a lot of operations, especially in the Mozambiquan channel. Unfortunately the Airforce is struggling with the budget, we just don't have the money to train fighter pilots to fly our gripens, helicopter boys are busy as ever, no combat though only SAR and VIP ferrying, the Army is also doing ok and are on quite a few operations in the DRC and some other African countries with the Force Intervention Brigade. If you want to have "fun" you have to join the more elite units such as the parabats, purely because with the budget being cut every year the SANDF will always keep the higher tier units battle ready. That said we've also just purchased 300 brand spanking new Patria AMVs modified to our needs called the Badger, which is probably one of the most advanced IFVs in the world and our MRAPs are second to none.....my point in all this blabbering it's not entirely doom and gloom here locally, yes there are issues but they are trying to be solved....

Link with regards to the recruitment of whites:
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.p...hite-recruits&catid=111:sa-defence&Itemid=242
 

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