Hi Bob:Originally Posted by BobW
Thanks for the info
The FFL is making an excellent work!
Saluti,
Pier Carlo
“Two things awe me most, the starry sky above me and the moral law within me.” - I. Kant
my only problem with this act of kindness in at the in where they bash the americans for "rushing in and helping" of course we would want everyone to know were trying to help. It allows the rest of the world to see that we don't just invade other countries, we also help other countries. (bottom line is these people needed help and everyone is helping them, and there is no need to bash any country that is trying to help.
Agree with Jobipolar. If real, this comment in the article about the Americans boasting for the help they provide was ridiculous. It's a Frenchman who says this !!
Prends garde aux rapaces qui fondent du ciel
You must have heard of the strange variation of the Catch 22 situation applied to humanitarian relief work field among others: "Damned if you do; and damned if you don't". It can also be the unstated motto of leadership in given situations....
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Honi soit qui mal y pense et de la Légion étrangère.
Damn those that think badly of it and the French Foreign Legion.
speaking of humanitarian relief work in asia...
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Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005
To: xxx
Subject: No good deed goes unpunished.....
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
By Ed Stanton
It has been three weeks since my ship, the USS Abraham Lincoln, arrived off the Sumatran coast to aid the hundreds of thousands of victims of the Dec. 26 tsunami that ravaged their coastline. I'd like to say that this has been a rewarding experience for us, but it has not: Instead, it has been a frustrating and needlessly dangerous exercise made even more difficult by the Indonesian government and a traveling circus of so-called aid workers who have invaded our spaces.
What really irritated me was a scene I witnessed in the Lincoln's wardroom a few days ago. I went in for breakfast as I usually do, expecting to see the usual crowd of ship's company officers in khakis and air wing aviators in flight suits, drinking coffee and exchanging rumors about when our ongoing humanitarian mission in Sumatra is going to end. What I saw instead was a mob of civilians sitting around like they owned the place. They wore various colored vests with logos on the back including Save The Children, World Health Organization and the dreaded baby blue vest of the United Nations. Mixed in with this crowd were a bunch of reporters, cameramen and Indonesian military officers in uniform. They all carried cameras, sunglasses and fanny packs like tourists on their way to Disneyland.
My warship had been transformed into a floating hotel for a bunch of trifling do-gooders overnight.
As I went through the breakfast line, I overheard one of the U.N. strap-hangers, a longhaired guy with a beard, make a sarcastic comment to one of our food servers. He said something along the lines of "Nice china, really makes me feel special," in reference to the fact that we were eating off of paper plates that day. It was all I could do to keep from jerking him off his feet and choking him, because I knew that the reason we were eating off paper plates was to save dishwashing water so that we would have more water to send ashore and save lives. That plus the fact that he had no business being there in the first place.
My attitude towards these unwanted no-loads grew steadily worse that day as I learned more from one of our junior officers who was assigned to escort a group of them. It turns out that they had come to Indonesia to "assess the damage" from the Dec. 26 tsunami.
Well, they could have turned on any TV in the world and seen that the damage was total devastation. When they got to Sumatra with no plan, no logistics support and no five-star hotels to stay in, they threw themselves on the mercy of the U.S. Navy, which, unfortunately, took them in. I guess our senior brass was hoping for some good PR since this was about the time that the U.N. was calling the United States "stingy" with our relief donations.
As a result of having to host these people, our severely over-tasked SH-60 Seahawk helos, which were carrying tons of food and water every day to the most inaccessible places in and around Banda Aceh, are now used in great part to ferry these "relief workers" from place to place every day and bring them back to their guest bedrooms on the Lincoln at night. Despite their avowed dedication to helping the victims, these relief workers will not spend the night in-country, and have made us their guardians by default.
When our wardroom treasurer approached the leader of the relief group and asked him who was paying the mess bill for all the meals they ate, the fellow replied, "We aren't paying, you can try to bill the U.N. if you want to." (The wardroom meals are paid for by the officers, who split the monthly cost of food and also must pay the Navy for the approximate cost of food preparation for the month -- meaning that the people who eat in the wardroom without paying are making the officers pay for the additional meals.)
In addition to the relief workers, we routinely get tasked with hauling around reporters and various low-level "VIPs," which further wastes valuable helo lift that could be used to carry supplies. We had to dedicate two helos and a C-2 cargo plane for America-hater Dan Rather and his entourage of door holders and briefcase carriers from CBS News. Another camera crew was from MTV. I doubt if we'll get any good PR from them, since the cable channel is banned in Muslim countries. We also had to dedicate a helo and crew to fly around the vice mayor of Phoenix, Ariz., one day. Everyone wants in on the action.
As for the Indonesian officers, while their job is apparently to encourage our leaving as soon as possible, all they seem to do in the meantime is smoke cigarettes. They want our money and our help but they don't want their population to see that Americans are doing far more for them in two weeks than their own government has ever done or will ever do for them.
To add a kick in the face to the USA and the Lincoln, the Indonesian government announced it would not allow us to use their airspace for routine
training and flight proficiency operations while we are saving the lives of their people, some of whom are wearing Osama bin Ladin T-shirts as they grab at our food and water. The ship has to steam out into international waters to launch and recover jets, which makes our helos have to fly longer distances and burn more fuel.
What is even worse than trying to help people who totally reject everything we stand for is that our combat readiness has suffered for it.
An aircraft carrier is an instrument of national policy and the big stick she carries is her air wing. An air wing has a set of very demanding skills and they are highly perishable. We train hard every day at sea to conduct actual air strikes, air defense, maritime surveillance, close air support and many other missions - not to mention taking off and landing on a ship at sea.
Our safety regulations state that if a pilot does not get a night carrier landing every seven days, he has to be re-qualified to land on the ship. Today we have pilots who have now been over 25 days without a trap due to being unable to use Indonesian airspace to train. Normally it is when we are at sea that our readiness is at its very peak. Thanks to the Indonesian government, we have to waive our own safety rules just to get our pilots off the deck.
In other words, the longer we stay here helping these people, the more dangerous it gets for us to operate. We have already lost one helicopter, which crashed in Banda Aceh while taking sailors ashore to unload supplies from the C-130s. There were no relief workers on that one.
I'm all for helping the less fortunate, but it is time to give this mission to somebody other than the U.S. Navy. Our ship was supposed to be home on Feb. 3 and now we have no idea how long we will be here. American taxpayers are spending millions per day to keep this ship at sea and getting no training value out of it. As a result, we will come home in a lower state of readiness than when we left due to the lack of flying while supporting the tsunami relief effort.
I hope we get some good PR in the Muslim world out of it. After all, this is Americans saving the lives of Muslims. I have my doubts.
Ed Stanton is the pen name of a career U.S. Navy officer currently serving
with the USS Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group.
when the going gets tough, the tough get going!
Bonjour Ranger and all,
Partly because of the "dumbing down" in America's schools and Ed Stanton's additude, he misses what's really going on and thus lost a great experience which he admits to.
That bunch of "civilians sitting around like they owned the place" is closer to accuracy than Ed Stanton knows about. "Save the Children" probably had the sponsorship of Senator Hillary Clinton. The Indonesian military were required to be on board or the Lincoln would not have been in the area. The clove cigarettes aren't as bad as vapors from the "Save the Children" derelects.
Some of the civilians were probably on vacation (British English: "holiday") because they have good jobs that allow for this. This must be understood. This is not new. Stanton just missed out on learning about the new military environment.
If the wardroom treasurer approached the leader of the pack AFTER they ate, ...well, ...don't blame the UN or Oxfam or the rest of the greasers in clogs.
I do not believe this cruise was the first when safety regulations were waived.
Ed's real complaint was that he won't be home on 3 Feb.
America's taxpayers are getting value out of the mission or the bomb magnet wouldn't have received sailing orders.
By now, I'm sure the entire Strait of Malacca has all new surveillance instruments on the coast and underwater, linked to Singapore. They can probably distinguish between the propeller signature of a Zodiac rigid to a terrorist swimmer, besides all the transiting tankers and freighters.
Aircraft carriers are indeed instruments of foreign policy but its not only the air wing that's important. Ed Stanton knows more about paper plates that what was going on.
Saluations,
BobW
Being by profession indirectly connected to the shipping industry, I can tell you that all shipowners sailing through the Strait of Malacca were delighted to see a significant decrease in (otherwise very frequent) piracy acts, due to the heavy military presence undertaking relief missions. A positive side-effect of the tsunamis.
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