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    A question about the French citizenship you get

    Just out of curiousity, if someone serves in the Legion and gets the French citizenship, are they then allowed to join the regular french armed forces as a citizen or would they still be limited to serving in the legion?

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    Re: A question about the French citizenship you get

    My question is, do you have to pay the full amount of back taxes at once? Or is there a grandfather clause?

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    Re: A question about the French citizenship you get

    Quote Originally Posted by mm66 View Post
    My question is, do you have to pay the full amount of back taxes at once? Or is there a grandfather clause?
    and right along that line, for the American former legionnaires does uncle sam try to hit you with back taxes for the money you made while in the legion?
    ...for now, just another wannabe.

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    Re: A question about the French citizenship you get

    You have to declare your overseas earned income to Uncle Sam. However, you wont' actually pay taxes unless you make over about 81,000 dollars a year.
    I work overseas so I have had to file, but not pay taxes. Then again, if you never intend to go back home you don't need to file. But if you don't file it could come back to haunt you if you ever need something from Uncle Sam.
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    Re: A question about the French citizenship you get

    Quote Originally Posted by demo2 View Post
    Just out of curiousity, if someone serves in the Legion and gets the French citizenship, are they then allowed to join the regular french armed forces as a citizen or would they still be limited to serving in the legion?
    U can apply for French citizenship when u have once u have been 3 yrs in the Legion.

    A recipient of French citizenships gets a the same rights as a citizen by birth, including joining the regular French Army. But u should complete ur 5 yr contract before applying for the French Army. I don't think they'd accept applications from FFL deserters even if they r French nationals!

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    Re: A question about the French citizenship you get

    [QUOTE=Porkscratchings;66634]U can apply for French citizenship when u have once u have been 3 yrs in the Legion.
    Last edited by ALEX LOCHRIE; 26th September 2008 at 10:03.

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    Re: A question about the French citizenship you get

    Thanks for the correction Alex Lochrie... I missed a bit there.

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    Re: A question about the French citizenship you get

    Quote Originally Posted by Nickfury View Post
    You have to declare your overseas earned income to Uncle Sam. However, you wont' actually pay taxes unless you make over about 81,000 dollars a year.
    I work overseas so I have had to file, but not pay taxes. Then again, if you never intend to go back home you don't need to file. But if you don't file it could come back to haunt you if you ever need something from Uncle Sam.
    Stupid question, how do you file?

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    Re: A question about the French citizenship you get

    Quote Originally Posted by ALEX LOCHRIE View Post
    CORRECTION TO THE ABOVE QUOTE!
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    Logically from that, you can surmise that anyone who refuses the offer to continue with the Legion would not be accepted into the regular army or be given French citizenship. It is something that has to be earned, not an automatic right of passage.
    thanks for the info

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    Re: A question about the French citizenship you get

    What is Frances policy on dual citizenship? And Americas? Is there any reason I can't have citizenship in both?

    Sorry if I'm not asking the right people.

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    Re: A question about the French citizenship you get

    How do you file?

    I went to a CPA/Tax preparer and asked them to do it. They couldn't do it when I was there as the software for foreign filings was not working or they didn't know the right codes. It took them almost 2 weeks to get it back to me, but it got done. I think most Tax Preparers won't be familiar with the forms, but they can figure it out. It cost me about 125 dollars to file. You generally pay based on the forms they file, not on hours of work.
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    Re: A question about the French citizenship you get

    Are you sure of this, Lochrie? On the Legion's official recruitment site the FAQ states:

    "We have a procedure known as “ Military regularization of situation” which can be used by any legionnaire after one year’s service."

    "A legionnaire of foreign nationality can ask for French nationality after three years service."

    Quote Originally Posted by ALEX LOCHRIE View Post
    CORRECTION TO THE ABOVE QUOTE!

    Once you have 3 years service you can have your 'Situation Regulated'. That is, that your true identity, age and legal status is verified by the French authorities at your request. This does not allow you to apply for French citizenship. That can only be done at the end of your first contract (5 years) and it all depends on your regimental assessment. It is extremely rare for someone who is not offered a new contract to be accepted for French citizenship.

    Logically from that, you can surmise that anyone who refuses the offer to continue with the Legion would not be accepted into the regular army or be given French citizenship. It is something that has to be earned, not an automatic right of passage.

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    Re: A question about the French citizenship you get

    Both the U.S.A. and France allow dual citizenship.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarybirds View Post
    What is Frances policy on dual citizenship? And Americas? Is there any reason I can't have citizenship in both?

    Sorry if I'm not asking the right people.

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    Re: A question about the French citizenship you get

    see if u get a new french identity can you get a american green card or visa with the new identity even though you have a criminal record with your old identity without the american embassy knowing?

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    Re: A question about the French citizenship you get

    Quote Originally Posted by jenkies View Post
    see if u get a new french identity can you get a american green card or visa with the new identity even though you have a criminal record with your old identity without the american embassy knowing?
    I believe you only keep your assumed "Legion-given" identity for the time that you are in the Legion. After you decide to get out, you are no longer able to assume your fabricated identity, and as such, are ineligible for French citizenship. A precondition of applying for French citizenship is that you regularise your situation. In other words, as soon as you're done with the Legion, your criminal record could come back to haunt you. Anyone please correct me if I'm wrong.

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