Results 1 to 13 of 13

Thread: workout schedule. oh, not another one, enough already :)

  1. #1
    Member bmilos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Eastern Europe
    Posts
    83
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 17 Times in 3 Posts
    Country
    Aaland

    workout schedule. oh, not another one, enough already :)

    For the past couple of months I have been working with the fitness coach of the national football team in my country. He agreed to let me work with him, and he knew what I was practicing for. So here’s my workout schedule for the past 2 months. I’m sure you’ve been bombarded by these schedules, but I though I can’t hurt if I throw in another one. If you’re not interested don’t read on. There are few misc.notes at the end.

    Before each workout I do 10min of stretching, then 4km light jog (4km in 20-25min). Then I do 3 “low jock” exercises (you run fast but in a single spot, only barely raising your feet, you don’t run forward, but your body makes run-like movements. Then all of a sudden you burst into a short sprint). Then I do “high-jock” (same as low jock, only you raise your feet and knees high above)

    After the running workout I do another 4km light jog, and push ups (start with 3x30 and move upwards), abs, and back exercises (I lay in my stomach, hands behind my head and I lift my upper body while my lower body is on the ground, it’s like a reverse of a sit-up). When I do multiple runs, I rest 2-3 min between runs, so that my heart rate needs to be bellow 150 bpm.

    during the weekend I would go hiking with small or no weight. i would march fast, but no 30kg sac-a-doc. just fast marching. one day a week I do NOTHING".

    Week 1:

    Monday: one cooper test 2,800m in 12.04min
    Tuesday: 6 sprints of 200m
    Wednesday: sprints: 100m, 200m, 300m, 400m, 300m, 200m, 100m
    Thursday: 5 sprints of 800m farhleht (meaning you run 100m full sprint, 100m light jog, 100m full sprint, 100m light jog, etc)
    Friday: rest

    Week 2:

    Monday: 3 runs of 1000m
    Tuesday: jumps- I find a stair-case of 15-20 steps, and I do the following runs up the stairs: 10 times low jock, 10 x high jock, 10 x just one leg (alternate left - right), 10 x both legs together.
    Wednesday: 2 runs of 6km
    Thursday: 6 x 200m sprints
    Friday: sprints: 4 x 10m, 4 x 20m, 3 x 30m, 3 x 40m, 2 x 50m, 2 x 60m

    Week 3:

    Monday: was sick
    Tuesday: 5 sprints of 800m farhleht (meaning you run 100m full sprint, 100m light jog, 100m full sprint, 100m light jog, etc)
    Wednesday: 5km run
    Thursday: jumps- I find a stair-case of 15-20 steps, and I do the following runs up the stairs: 10 times low jock, 10 x high jock, 10 x just one leg (alternate left - right), 10 x both legs together.
    Friday: 2 runs of 6km

    Week 4:

    Monday: 8 x 200m sprints
    Tuesday: gym- I warm up the same as a running workout. Once in the gym, I work my abs and lower back, then legs, then chest, shoulder and upper back. 3 times 12 repetitions for the exercises with weights. For the back, I use a bar and I lift my body, with hand grips wide apart, and with hand grips closer together.
    Wednesday: 2 x 6km
    Thursday: gym
    Friday: 2 x 6km

    Week 5:

    Monday: gym
    Tuesday: 5 x 400m
    Wednesday: gym
    Thursday: 9 sprints of 200m
    Friday: gym

    Week 6:

    Monday: 4 km fahrleht (you run 100m full sprint, 100m light jog, 100m full sprint, 100m light jog, etc)
    Tuesday: gym
    Wednesday: 2km fahrleht
    Thursday: gym
    Friday: 4 runs of 1000m

    Week 7:

    Monday: bad weather (too much fog and smog, bad for lungs)
    Tuesday: gym
    Wednesday: 12km run in 54min
    Thursday: gym
    Friday: 12 sprints of 200m

    Week 8:

    Monday: 12 sprints of 200m
    Tuesday: medical check up
    Wednesday: 5 x 400m
    Thursday: gym
    Friday: 3 x 1000m

    Notes:

    I started this workout being able to run 2,800m in 12min, now I do 3,200 in 12mn. Considering that the weather is now much worse than 8 weeks ago, that’s a big jump. Bad weather can take out 20%-30% of your performance. I often run in sub-zero temperature, with high humidity. meaning that if were to go to aubegne in spring, i could easily push the 3,200 to 3,400 even 3,600, if you add the psychological moment, adrenaline etc.

    These workouts were all morning workouts. in the evenings I do martial arts, 1 hour or so. compared to the morning workout, the evening one was very light, i barely break a sweat, but nevertheless, I keep my self busy with something different. in between workouts: food, french lagnuage lessons, and girls

    shin splits: I didn’t get them. I guess I was reasonably fit before I even stared. Nevertheless, I would not recommend being a tough Rambo who endures pain with a smile. If you get sharp pain in your shin, I would advise to rest for few days, put ice, go swimming, cycling, etc. I prefer being smart to being tough.

    this plan was custom-made. Hence its not a generic workout schedule. What exactly your will train will depend on you fitness level, on you momentary performance, what you are comfortable with and what you have problems with, etc. the main thing is to build up a combination of endurance, strength, and explosiveness. For example I could run long distance easily, but I had a problem when I had to run short consecutive sprints. Hence my workouts were more focused on short sprints. You need to find your own best fit. Another example: you aim is to run 1000m in under 3 ½ min in a few days, so today you run 6km, tomorrow 9x200m, day after that 5x400m, then you run the 1000m. get the idea? Endurance, the explosiveness, then combine them.

    other things worth thinking about: quality of food intake, sleeping schedule, bllod pressure, etc.

    Hope this helps. If you have any specific questions, email me. I’m here for few more weeks.

  2. #2
    Active Member kiwi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Auckland
    Posts
    264
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts
    Country
    New Zealand
    Ulgh. I don't think its even been a Week since the Last one Died!!!

    You have a solid schedule though, seems a little to atheletic for my liking.
    Live by Chance. Love by Choice. Kill by Profession.

  3. #3
    Member arrichion's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Eastern-Block
    Posts
    54
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Why so much sprints?

  4. #4
    Member bmilos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Eastern Europe
    Posts
    83
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 17 Times in 3 Posts
    Country
    Aaland
    athletic? yeah, well the coach that was working with me designs workouts for professional football (soccer) players.

    sprints? they give you explosiveness. endurance is not enough. a marathon runner would die if he were put thru hard military training. my personal workout inlcuded more of sprints because i was lacking this explosiveness. i was doing great on longdistance (endurance) though

  5. #5
    Super Active Member Main Forum Poster Forgotten's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Vicenza, Italy
    Posts
    589
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 14 Times in 4 Posts
    Country
    United States
    Quote Originally Posted by bmilos
    athletic? yeah, well the coach that was working with me designs workouts for professional football (soccer) players.

    sprints? they give you explosiveness. endurance is not enough. a marathon runner would die if he were put thru hard military training. my personal workout inlcuded more of sprints because i was lacking this explosiveness. i was doing great on longdistance (endurance) though

    If you are looking for "explosiveness" haul ass up a hill a few times. When I played soccer(football) for my school I started sprinting up my hill four times, three times a week. At first I felt like I was going to pass out half way up the hill but my body over came that. It makes sprinting the track a cake walk and is probably something you'll face in southern france.... hills... I love hills...

  6. #6
    Top Member Major Forum Poster Eagle eye's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Foreign soil
    Posts
    3,150
    Thanks
    53
    Thanked 158 Times in 51 Posts
    Country
    Macau
    It sounds like a very individual approach and Olympian training.
    I don't want to discourage you but the FFL experience is, first and foremost, a collective experience, that is, working in a team and, at times, dealing with people you don't particularly like for whatever reason.

    By the way, do you speak French ? Please remind me if you've previously mentioned your preparation.
    Honi soit qui mal y pense et de la Légion étrangère.
    Damn those that think badly of it and the French Foreign Legion.

  7. #7
    Member bmilos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Eastern Europe
    Posts
    83
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 17 Times in 3 Posts
    Country
    Aaland
    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle eye
    It sounds like a very individual approach and Olympian training.
    I don't want to discourage you but the FFL experience is, first and foremost, a collective experience, that is, working in a team and, at times, dealing with people you don't particularly like for whatever reason.

    By the way, do you speak French ? Please remind me if you've previously mentioned your preparation.
    Vous avez raison Eagle, l'entrainement est seulement olimique et physique. comme j'ai deja dit, ce programe te donne la force, la resistance, et explosivite. Ce n'est pas une preparation mentale pour ce qui attend dans la Legion, mais simplement une maniere de faire bien dans le "cooper" et d'avoir la capacite d'oxigene d'endurer mieux a castel. c'est tout.

    et oui, je parle en peu de Francais, mais excuse-moi pour l'epallation

  8. #8
    New Member SDashp72's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    California
    Posts
    8
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Lightbulb

    Has anyone here seen the Ranger Challenge that's on OLN (ESPN) from time to time? For those of you that are not familiar it is the annual military competition of the US Army Rangers. It probably doesn't get much tougher than what these dudes go through - most Rangers cannot finish the course. From what I could gather, endurance and mental toughness are the number one assets in military training followed by muscular strength. Training to be a sprinter is not going to carry you all the way but sprints are good for cardio training. One thing I havn't seen in anyone's workout plan is a 25mile (40km) hike with a backpack. Learing how to hike a long distance over a day or two (Rangers do 25miles in 6 hours with a ruck) is going to help alot more than running more than 2800m in 12min. I believe that is why the Cooper's test does not rate higher than 2800m.

    A

  9. #9
    Top Member Main Forum Poster BobW's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Virginia,USA
    Posts
    828
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
    Bonjour SDash72,

    Can you list some of the tests from the "Ranger Challenge"?

    Fortunately - or unfortunately - "it" does get tougher than the Ranger program. From my limited knowledge; the French Foreign Legion and China's PLA special units exceed the Ranger limits.

    With a few exceptions only, US Army doctrine ditched the long distance march. 25 miles in 6 hours with a ruck is nominal (for our discussions here). If also carrying weapons and ordnance, eg mortar base plates and their ammo, then place on the list.

    Somewhere near here today, Beau Sheep discussed the Legion's "forced march". The US Army once did this but phased it out (with some exceptions).

    As a personal opinion - and I'm open to be convinced otherwise-the 2800m in 12 minutes is more important than a long distance march.

    Just to add one more additional aspect for our "comparative studies" here, to me the greatest feat isn't so much distance or speed per se, but rather the environment. A long distance hike above 60 degrees north latitude or anything in near Polar environments always tests only the best of Americans. The rest just can't make it to get tested.

    Appreciated you mentioning "mental toughness". That's what it's all really about.

    Warm regards,
    BobW

  10. #10
    Member chrisd234's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Posts
    43
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Another note:

    Ranger is just a qualification..... You can be ranger qualified but not be special forces, not even in a ranger unit...... Similar to Airborne...

    Not all special forces troops are Ranger qualified.. etc etc

  11. #11
    New Member SDashp72's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    California
    Posts
    8
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by BobW
    Bonjour SDash72,

    Can you list some of the tests from the "Ranger Challenge"?

    Fortunately - or unfortunately - "it" does get tougher than the Ranger program. From my limited knowledge; the French Foreign Legion and China's PLA special units exceed the Ranger limits.

    With a few exceptions only, US Army doctrine ditched the long distance march. 25 miles in 6 hours with a ruck is nominal (for our discussions here). If also carrying weapons and ordnance, eg mortar base plates and their ammo, then place on the list.

    Somewhere near here today, Beau Sheep discussed the Legion's "forced march". The US Army once did this but phased it out (with some exceptions).

    As a personal opinion - and I'm open to be convinced otherwise-the 2800m in 12 minutes is more important than a long distance march.

    Just to add one more additional aspect for our "comparative studies" here, to me the greatest feat isn't so much distance or speed per se, but rather the environment. A long distance hike above 60 degrees north latitude or anything in near Polar environments always tests only the best of Americans. The rest just can't make it to get tested.

    Appreciated you mentioning "mental toughness". That's what it's all really about.

    Best Ranger Challenge INFO:

    PAST MAJOR EVENTS


    UNKOWN DISTANCE RUN / PUSH UPS / SIT UPS

    MALVESTI CONFIDENCE COURSE

    AIRBORNE OPERATION

    RIFLE MARKSMANSHIP

    PISTOL MARKSMANSHIP

    MACHINE GUN MARKSMANSHIP

    FOOT MARCH - 20+ MILES (60 POUND RUCK SACK)

    AIRBORNE OPERATION

    SPOT JUMP

    4.7 MILE RUCK RUN

    HANDS-ON RANGER SKILLS TESTS (DAY & NIGHT) DEMOLITIONS

    GRENADES

    MILITARY KNOTS

    WEAPONS ASSEMBLY

    ROPE CLIMB AND RAPPELING (PRUSIK)

    BAYONET ASSAULT COURSE

    NIGHT LAND NAVIGATION (MAP & COMPASS)

    OBSTACLE COURSE

    WATER CONFIDENCE TEST SLIDE FOR LIFE / ROPE DROP

    HELOCAST / SWIM

    MILE BUDDY RUN
    *


    BEST RANGER STATS


    60 CONTINUOUS HOURS

    60 MILES COVERED

    NO PROGRAMMED SLEEP

    29 MILITARY TASKS MOVE

    SHOOT

    COMMUNICATE

    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

    I am not familiar with Ranger regimental training and meant to make no comparisons here.

    -----------------------------------

    My point about the Cooper test was not to say running 2800m in 12min is not less important than long distance marching, but to say training to go much faster than that in 12min may not confer alot of additional advantage to you as far as your success in military training. The faster you run the more you get into anerobic training which is not going to help as much with endurance as aerobic (less intense over time) training. Acquiring musculature for explosive strength/sprinting can mean added muscle volume above and beyond what is need for steady, long term exertion, thus you could use more energy over time and therefore tire more quickly (and need more food) than the guy who took a more endurance oriented approach. My opinion is based on some research into exercise physiology and conversations with trainers but not at the highest levels of sport or science, so I may be somewhat wrong. But, at the extreme of comparisons, military men do not look like olympic sprinters. All this depends on where you're at in training, of course.

    A

  12. #12
    Member bmilos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Eastern Europe
    Posts
    83
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 17 Times in 3 Posts
    Country
    Aaland
    I think i mentioned in my initial post that my training schedule was aimed at only:
    1) making sure you get full points on the Cooper (ie. 3,200m or more) and 2) adjusting your cardio-vascular system (heart and lungs) to a high degree of daily effort.

    Note the 2 times 4km runs in 20min before AND after each sprinting session.

    Hiking: i also menionted that i do that once a week. Some might prefer more, but like I said, my plan was individual for me. I was lacking explosiveness, so i focused on sprints and gym. I was doing great on long distance runs and hiking because i've been doing it before. What i trained was designed for myself. it doesn't mean that everyone should follow the same routine.

    That was my sole purpose for the post. I know these shcedules have been posted a lot, but i thought i can't hurt if I post another one. It just means more choice for the people who are starting to get in shape.

    All of the things you've added are valid points though.

    Salut

  13. #13
    Member PSBC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    71
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    the British paras have a similar set up :-
    P Company is a series of test events that all soldiers, who want to join the Airborne Forces must pass. They are designed to test your physical stamina and mental aptitude under pressure prior to carrying out parachute training. They include both individual and team events.

    The Steeplechase
    A 1.7 mile course with 25 obstacles to be completed in under 19 minutes. This is an individual event that requires good cardio-vascular fitness.

    The Trainasium
    Ariel confidence course

    The Log Race
    A team race of 8 men per team carrying a log around a 1.8 mile course.

    Stretcher Race
    Team event of 16 men carrying a stretcher over a 5 mile course

    (there is a tank track on the stretcher and its a real ball buster )

    Milling
    A one minute bout of sparring

    thats a minute of pure agression , any sighn of cowardice or not getting amongst it is seen as a lack of fighting spirit and an automatic fail . Fail one test you fail the lot

    10 Mile March
    Carrying 35lbs bergen and individual weapon. To be completed in 1 hour and 50 minutes.
    Cross country event

    20 Mile Endurance March
    Carrying 35lbs bergen and individual weapon. To be completed in 5 hours
    another ball buster !!!

    You don't need to be an Olympic athlete to pass. The tests are about giving your all, they are about motivation, self confidence and teamwork.

    I expect the Legion paras have a similar set up somewhere along the line .


    If it was easy we wouldnt want to do it would we !!!!

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Workout questions
    By un_faible_pour in forum Fitness and Training
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 21st November 2009, 14:38
  2. Arm workout... for some of you :D
    By CB123 in forum Fitness and Training
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 27th August 2009, 21:35
  3. My Favorite Workout
    By kalle1988 in forum Fitness and Training
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 19th April 2009, 19:06
  4. New Job/Schedule!
    By Victor in forum Others Topics
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 15th April 2009, 01:46
  5. Legion, Workout
    By legion hopefull in forum The French Foreign Legion Today
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 3rd November 2004, 21:48

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  




Creative Commons License
a French Foreign Legion Website by cervens.net is licensed under
a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported License.
Based on a work at cervens.net.