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    Spanish legion

    Hi, i wanted to know you opinion about de Spanish legion. I have been reading in the internet and in some Spanish legion forums but i want to know what you think about it. I know they have been in Irak lately, is it possible that they have been more active than the French Foreign Legion in the last years? I am asking this because i know they are taking latin Americans so i may be able to get in there but i want to know how the Spanish legion is considered in the military world and specially for French legionnaires.

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    There are some topics about it here, dunno if they're interesting for you. Search for Spanish Foreign Legion.
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    To tell you the truth the French Legion is far well known and has a greater reputation than the Spanish legion. I only discovered the Spanish legion like 6-7 months ago. But Spanish legion are elite troopers so since you speak Spanish it should be walk in the park from the language part.
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    I suppose this might help you, and save us some time

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    and here are some picture for your delight

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    keep in mind that those are elite groups, and you shouldn't take those pictures as an example of the training or life in the Spanish Legion. If you would like to expand your knowledge I recommend the book The Betrothed of Death : The Spanish Foreign Legion During the Rif Rebellion, 1920-1927 and The Spanish Foreign Legion (Men-at-Arms 161) (not commonly found in US or outside of Europe).
    I've looked into the Spanish Legion myself, and I was not very amazed or fascinated, but please, don’t let that discourage your research, although it looks more like a private club than an elite group, again don’t let my opinion affect yours.

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    Carlitos,

    Know that being Latin American is not enough. You need Spanish residency, only begotten after living three years in Spain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomislav
    Carlitos,

    Know that being Latin American is not enough. You need Spanish residency, only begotten after living three years in Spain.
    LEY 32/2002, de 5 de julio, de modificación de la Ley 17/1999, de 18 de mayo, de Régimen del Personal de las Fuerzas Armadas, al objeto de permitir el acceso de extranjeros a la condición de militar profesional de tropa y marinería.

    Artículo 68 bis. Acceso de extranjeros a militar profesional de tropa y marinería.

    1. Los extranjeros que sean nacionales de los países que reglamentariamente se determinen de entre aquellos que mantienen con España especiales y tradicionales vínculos históricos, culturales y lingüísticos, podrán acceder a la condición de militar profesional de tropa y marinería en los términos de los apartados siguientes de este artículo, y sin perjuicio de lo determinado en el párrafo segundo del artículo 68 de la Ley, siempre que, por la legislación de su país de origen o por cuanto pueda establecerse en convenios internacionales, no pierdan su nacionalidad al entrar al servicio de las Fuerzas Armadas Españolas ni tengan prohibición de alistamiento militar en las mismas.

    2. La relación jurídico-pública de carácter especial que se establece con la firma del compromiso se rige exclusivamente por la presente Ley y las normas reglamentarias que la desarrollen. La relación de servicios profesionales con las Fuerzas Armadas se establecerá mediante la firma de un compromiso único que tendrá una duración, a contar desde el nombramiento como alumno del centro docente militar de formación correspondiente, de tres años, y surtirá, desde la fecha de su firma, los efectos pertinentes a los fines de residencia y permiso de trabajo. No obstante lo dispuesto en el párrafo anterior, aquellos que a la finalización de este compromiso hayan adquirido la nacionalidad española y quieran continuar prestando servicios como militar profesional de tropa y marinería en las Fuerzas Armadas, podrán establecer nuevos compromisos de acuerdo con lo establecido en el artículo 95 de esta Ley.

    3. Para el ingreso de extranjeros en los centros docentes militares de formación se exigirán, además de los establecidos en el apartado 2 del artículo 63, salvo el referido a la nacionalidad española, los requisitos siguientes:

    a) Tener la residencia legal en España;
    b) No figurar como rechazable en el espacio territorial de países con los que España haya firmado un convenio en tal sentido;
    c) Tener la mayoría de edad con arreglo a lo dispuesto a su ley nacional; y
    d) Carecer de antecedentes penales en España o en sus países anteriores de residencia por delitos existentes en el ordenamiento español.

    4. Reglamentariamente se determinará el cupo de plazas que se ofertarán para el acceso de extranjeros, con indicación de las especialidades, unidad o unidades y, en su caso, porcentaje de vacantes en estas últimas. Asimismo, se determinarán reglamentariamente las especificidades de la enseñanza militar de formación de los extranjeros para su acceso a la condición de militares profesionales de tropa y marinería de carácter temporal, que tendrá en todo caso, como una de sus finalidades, la de proporcionarles una instrucción adecuada acerca de los principios y valores constitucionales y las instituciones, así como en los conocimientos básicos históricos y culturales de España.

    5. En caso de resolución o finalización del compromiso, si aún no hubieran adquirido la nacionalidad española, quedarán sometidos al régimen general de derechos y obligaciones aplicable a los extranjeros, sin que les sea de aplicación lo dispuesto en el artículo 169 de la presente Ley. 6. A los que hayan solicitado la adquisición de la nacionalidad española se les podrá prorrogar, en su caso y en los términos que se establezcan reglamentariamente, el compromiso que tuviesen firmado hasta la finalización del procedimiento instruido a tal fin."
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    LAW 32/2002, of 5 of July, modification of Law 17/1999, 18 of May, Regime of the Personnel of the Armed Forces, to the object to allow to the access of foreigners to the condition of professional military man of troops and ship's crew. Article 68 bis. Access of foreigners to professional military man of troops and ship's crew. 1. The foreigners who are national of the countries that prescribed are determined of between that they maintain with Spain and traditional historical bonds special, cultural and linguistic, troops military man of and ship's crew in the terms of the following sections of this article will be able to accede to the condition of professional, and without damage of determined in the paragraph the second of article 68 of the Law, whenever, by the legislation of his country of origin or inasmuch as she can settle down in international treaties, they do not lose his nationality when entering the service of the Spanish Armed Forces nor have prohibition of military enlistment in the same ones. 2. The legal-public relation of special character that settles down with the company/signature of the commitment exclusively hereby governs Law and the prescribed norms that develop it. The relation of professional services with the Armed Forces will settle down by means of the company/signature of a unique commitment that will last, to count from the appointment like student of the military teaching institution of corresponding formation, three years, and will spurt, from the date of its company/signature, the pertinent effects to the residence aims and permission of work. Despite the arranged thing in the previous paragraph, those that to the conclusion of this commitment have acquired the Spanish nationality and want to continue serving like professional military man of troops and ship's crew in the Armed Forces, will be able to establish new commitments in agreement with the established thing in article 95 of this Law. 3. For the entrance of foreigners in the military teaching institutions of formation they will be demanded, in addition to the established ones in section 2 of article 63, except for the referred one to the Spanish nationality, the following requirements: a) To have the legal residence in Spain; b) not to appear like rejectable in the territorial space of countries with which Spain has signed an agreement in such sense; c) Tener most of age in accordance with the arranged thing to its national law; and d) Carecer criminal records in Spain or its previous countries of residence by existing crimes in the Spanish ordering. 4. Prescribed it will be determined fitted of seats that will be supplied for the access of foreigners, with indication of the specialties, unit or units and, in his case, percentage of vacancies in these last ones. Also, the specificities of the military training of formation of the foreigners for their access to the condition of the professional military of troops and ship's crew of temporary character, that it will have in any case, like one of their purposes, the one to provide an instruction adapted about the principles and constitutional values to them will be determined prescribed and the institutions, as well as in the historical and cultural basic knowledge of Spain. 5. In case of resolution or conclusion of the commitment, if not yet they had acquired the Spanish nationality, they will be put under the general regime of rights and obligations applicable to the foreigners, without he is to them of application the arranged thing in article 169 of the present Law. 6. To that they have asked for the acquisition of the Spanish nationality will be possible to be prorogued to them, in its case and the terms that settle down prescribed, the commitment that they had signed until the conclusion of the procedure instructed to such aim."

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    Thanks for the answers. I know that you need the residence but i have the European citizenship so the residence isn't a problem. I wanted some opinions about the Spanish legion because i have heard that they aren't as professional as the French, so i wanted to know what you legionnaires think.

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    Just found this. Noticed Tomislav above. Wonder did he succeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlitos View Post
    Thanks for the answers. I know that you need the residence but i have the European citizenship so the residence isn't a problem. I wanted some opinions about the Spanish legion because i have heard that they aren't as professional as the French, so i wanted to know what you legionnaires think.
    Carlitos, what is your nationality?
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    I looked into the Spanish Legion as well but to me it's a no brainer. The FFL is superior in every way.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but what Blixa posted said that non-resident hispanics were allowed in the Legion? No need to live in Spain, just go over there and sign up?

    That's what I had found out when I did my research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kbx View Post
    I looked into the Spanish Legion as well but to me it's a no brainer. The FFL is superior in every way.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but what Blixa posted said that non-resident hispanics were allowed in the Legion? No need to live in Spain, just go over there and sign up?

    That's what I had found out when I did my research.
    Correcto KBX
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    The Spanish Legion is stationed in Ronda and Viator in Andalucia.The local boys that are doing their military service,choose the Legion because it is close to home.It is a 8 to 4,monday to friday service.You can go home in the afternoon and go back the next morning.I have met some of them,and they say it is easy to get accepted and it is an easy service too.Andalucian men are amongst the most lazy men on earth,and as they form the majority of the Legion,it should be obvious to everybody that it is not as good as the FFL.
    You can often see them on the Costa del Sol,guarding the Subway Stations and Bus Stations.Not a very interesting service,methinks;-)
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    That is a load of crap
    "La LEGION" is not like this now.the Spanish Army are profesionnal now for a few years...La LEGION and others units of the Spanish Armed forces are on mission wtih the ISAF in afghanistan or in Congo in that moment...and surely also are deployed in Lebanon....
    when you post something here,be sure of your information....
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    i read a little about them in a book a while ago but cant remember the title. the one thing i remember clearly is the fact that they raped a lot of thei prisoners in north africa. i also read that some spetsnaz units rape chechen prisoners. the more notorious the terroist is, the more brutal the rape.

    looks like gay rape is still a favourite tool of war. it makes fighting to the death seem more attractive anyway.

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