Diet (as in food, not losing weight)

[betrand]

Ok so I don't buy protein supplements .. as eating a protein rich diet is incredibly expensive as it is.

How many of your guys are eating the recommended 1g/kg of bodyweight of protein a day?

I'm struggling to come close and remain _healthy_.

I'm sick of reading blogs and body building/fitness advisors telling me to eat 3 eggs a day or cans of tuna and chicken breasts and salmon steaks.

Apart from the obscene costs of all that (looking at £100 a week to eat like that in my country) there are some serious health concerns: Milk and cheese are full of eostrogen and other hormones. Eggs are full of cholesterol, LDL, HDL, whatever. Its not good for you in large quantities. Canned fish is known (tuna especially) to contain high levels of mercury and salt (if in Brine). If you ate 7 cans of tuna a week your blood mercury would be through the roof, well into dangerous levels. Mercury is a neuro-toxin. No thanks. Chicken is full of steroids, growth hormone, pharma residues and other nasty I don't think I want accumulating in my colon - thanks. A six pack is not worth cancer or a coronary in 10 years time. How many bypasses has Arnold had now? 5?

Vegatables likewise are full of phosphates (my blood was taken recently and was pretty high into the 'max' and I eat a lot of leafy greens) and pesticides christ knows what they spray on fruit like banana and apples outside the EU where much of it is produced.

Basically: food may have been safe 50-100 years ago but these days its a cocktail of nasty every time you sit down to eat a meal. Eating huge quantities of food, particularly animal protein, is a BAD idea.

Likewise, most protein supplements are loaded with flavourings, colurings, artifical sweetners, preservatives etc. The pure whey stuff might be great but its £30 for 2kg. A lot of cash to fork out ..

Then there is the debate about just how much protein you need and whether protein, in the form of animal products, is really neccessary to build and sustain muscle in such great quantities. Protein, meat, is just muscle, which is just chains of amino acids. You can surely get enough protein from all the other providers, including vegetables and dairy, without needing 100g+ a day.

How do you do it? Do you use supplements, do you find eating properly and getting enough nutrients a real financial burden? Do you think carefully about what you can afford to eat and what you need to eat to achieve your muscle mass goals?

Tell me about your diet and its relationship to the way you train. How many meals do you eat a day and how much protein?

Finally, all you guys eating 3 eggs a day and carrying a lot of muscle etc. ever had your blood done for cholesterol .. I'd love to hear the figures.

The way I see it, if you are Tom Cruise and don't need to work so can spend 4 hrs a day working out and you want to look 35 forever you can afford to spend a grand a week on the finest, purest foods and fluids on the planet to ensure you do. Get the best and latest and most expensive supplements and treatments etc.

The rest of us, who want to achieve peak fitness and a good form are going to have to cut corners or compromise.

Is this untrue?

[Mise]

Just eat ordinary food. The first time I had my cholesterol checked the Bn Doc did it twice, because it was 1.2 and I packed in everything I could get into me(eggs burgers chips spuds butter bacon more butter), I was 10 1/2 stone and 6'2". Now, 20 years later, it is 4.4 and I'm 15 stone. My wife has a cholesterol count of 8.6, hasn't eaten ANY dairy products in almost 20 years and eats one meal a day, high cholesterol is not governed by what you eat. Want healthy protein? Any wild meat or fish. Healthy greens? Nettles. All this spouting about Ray Mears et al, have any of you ever listened to him.
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[betrand]

True but this is England not Alaska. I can't just go and shoot my mates daughter's pony. He'd be well pissed. And free range they may well be, but immigrants have diseases ..

Nettles is 100% true however. They are LOADED with vitamin C.

I'm confused what you mean by 'ordinary' food though. For me thats 1500 calories a day and mostly vegetables. I'm having to force myself to eat meals while still feeling quite full to get the calories and the protein and the cost of fruit and veg and lean meat is more than I can afford (£20 a day to eat?).

If you can suggest some wild produce that'd be great .. plenty of wood pigeons round here. Fat bastards too!

EDIT: Google has a lot to answer for. :(



Great idea! You might bump into the one I saw making quite a feast out of the chunks in a pile of vomit on the pavement in whitehall earlier this year..

[Aurelie3]

I think cholesterol in dangerous levels is pretty much a hereditary thing - if heart disease is an issue in your family then you'll have to take more care. There is evidence to suggest though that a diet high in simple carbs is more likely to raise your levels of "nasty" fats in your blood than a fatty diet - of course you can find evidence to suggest that Elvis lives on the moon.

Cheap proteins: lentils; chick peas; kidney beans; peanut butter, you're getting the picture here right? ;)

As for pesticides in fruit & veg, pesticides are used more in some production than others... and you have to weigh up the costs of "how much do I eat this?" vs. how many chemicals does it contain? E.g., I believe apples are one of the things worth investing in - but you'll have to do your research here.

Foraging: Plenty of scope in the UK and if you live by the coast or an estuary (n.b., NOT the Thames ;) ) even better! again, plenty of websites out there about this - might be an idea to avoid mushrooms unless you can find an "old boy" willing to guide you through this potential disaster... back in the 70s facing a severe financial push my mum gathered mushrooms to feed us.... Quite a tense evening all round apparently! Anyway, I love scavenging like this - last year collected kilos and kilos of walnuts and I keep my eye out for wild garlic and herbs. You can find cherry trees and all sorts - stay away from wild plums though...

[soccer#3]

u sound like a girl on period. seriously, dont be so picky about this and about that. u make it sound like a vegan diet is the right thing u. im gonna go over ur post point by point...

1g/1kg protein a day? i eat more than that. i dont count my calories and protein intake down to the very point. i just make estimates in my head. i'd say i eat around ~120-150 grams of protein a day.

those articles u read on fitness blogs are for bodybuilders. people who compete and most likely are on some kinda cycle. but they do make valid points for a serious athlete. are u a serious athlete?

not sure how many surgeries arnold has had, nor do i care. too much complaining about what food contain. just eat bro.

i do agree, some supplements do contain shit. i was on a weight gainer this winter that gave me zits all around my throat. i stopped takin it and it cleared up within a month. and this weight gainer was from a reputable company, not gonna mention which. but if u are s erious athlete and train hard u should be on some kinda supplement imo. at least a protein supp. and it does cost money. its cheaper than surgery :)

i use supps. currently on a whey supp. depending on what my goals are i just my supp and food intake from that. i was on a bulk during the winter where i was on weight gainers and ate a lot. now im tryin to cut down a couple of kilos so i stopped using the weight gainer and went on a protein supp. i still eat my 6 daily meals. one serving of protein + a banana is considered a meal for me. thats what i eat after a workout.

my diet consists of 6 meals.

meal 1 - 2 eggs, 2 toast wit butter, cheese and honey. oatmeal wit milk

meal 2 - protein supp + banana

meal 3 - usually rice wit some kinda meat (chicken, beef, lamb)

meal 4 - protein supp + banana

meal 5 - same as meal 3

meal 6 - usually 3 toasts and a can of tuna

i usually eat a can of tuna everyday,. u shoundnt worry too much about the mercury stories u hear. people have been eating tuna for yrs without probs.

when it comes to the eggs, if u workout plenty enough u shouldnt worry about ur eggs either. eggs are the best thing u can eat in the morning imo.

dont forget to include tons of water in ur diet. water is good for everything. if ur tryin to loose weight, if ur tryin to gain weight, if u train alot water is essential

[Pagoda_Warrior]

u sound like a girl on period. seriously, dont be so picky about this and about that. u make it sound like a vegan diet is the right thing u. im gonna go over ur post point by point...

1g/1kg protein a day? i eat more than that. i dont count my calories and protein intake down to the very point. i just make estimates in my head. i'd say i eat around ~120-150 grams of protein a day.

those articles u read on fitness blogs are for bodybuilders. people who compete and most likely are on some kinda cycle. but they do make valid points for a serious athlete. are u a serious athlete?

not sure how many surgeries arnold has had, nor do i care. too much complaining about what food contain. just eat bro.

i do agree, some supplements do contain shit. i was on a weight gainer this winter that gave me zits all around my throat. i stopped takin it and it cleared up within a month. and this weight gainer was from a reputable company, not gonna mention which. but if u are s erious athlete and train hard u should be on some kinda supplement imo. at least a protein supp. and it does cost money. its cheaper than surgery :)

i use supps. currently on a whey supp. depending on what my goals are i just my supp and food intake from that. i was on a bulk during the winter where i was on weight gainers and ate a lot. now im tryin to cut down a couple of kilos so i stopped using the weight gainer and went on a protein supp. i still eat my 6 daily meals. one serving of protein + a banana is considered a meal for me. thats what i eat after a workout.

my diet consists of 6 meals.

meal 1 - 2 eggs, 2 toast wit butter, cheese and honey. oatmeal wit milk

meal 2 - protein supp + banana

meal 3 - usually rice wit some kinda meat (chicken, beef, lamb)

meal 4 - protein supp + banana

meal 5 - same as meal 3

meal 6 - usually 3 toasts and a can of tuna

i usually eat a can of tuna everyday,. u shoundnt worry too much about the mercury stories u hear. people have been eating tuna for yrs without probs.

when it comes to the eggs, if u workout plenty enough u shouldnt worry about ur eggs either. eggs are the best thing u can eat in the morning imo.

dont forget to include tons of water in ur diet. water is good for everything. if ur tryin to loose weight, if ur tryin to gain weight, if u train alot water is essential



If you currently eat all that over the course of 24 hrs then I'd seriously recommend you half that calorific intake immediately!! If you're thinking of joining on 1st June you'll need time to accustom your body to a significant and reduced calorie consumption. What you're eating now is I'm sure very healthy, and I have no doubt that you're in good shape. But you won't get anywhere near that quantity or quality if you join the military.

With your current eating habits you're likely to go straight into starvation mode! You simply won't have either the time or resources to focus on such a luxurious or time consuming food consumption routine.

That breakfast of yours sounds great! What you'll get in the Legion is a bowel of Hot Chocolate (or Coffee) and a slice of Baguette with some Jam. And Thats all!!! Everything you seem dependent on now (cooked breakfasts, Protein shakes etc etc) just won't be available as you seem so used to. You need to address this issue immediately.

Food for thought hey?? lol

[Sugardaddy]

I disagree eat hearty now worry in the Legion if you can take the hunger you will do just ok do not worry about it plus you body will have extra cals to use up from intestines, swollen muscle cells and fat deposits I say keep healthy diet now worry later.

Hey that is what prehistoric men did and they were fit sobs:)

[Mise]

We don't need half of what we eat.

[Pagoda_Warrior]

I disagree eat hearty now worry in the Legion if you can take the hunger you will do just ok do not worry about it plus you body will have extra cals to use up from intestines, swollen muscle cells and fat deposits I say keep healthy diet now worry later.

Hey that is what prehistoric men did and they were fit sobs:)

Fair point... My last comments were intended only if you wanted the transition to be reasonably smooth. Hunger pangs when you're cold, wet and exhausted aren't much fun at the best of times.

The risk of becoming hyper Hyperglycemic is higher if you suddenly reduce your calorific intake and remain very active. By gradually reducing now he can decrease the intensity of such episodes and still 'fire on all cylinders'.

[soccer#3]

If you currently eat all that over the course of 24 hrs then I'd seriously recommend you half that calorific intake immediately!! If you're thinking of joining on 1st June you'll need time to accustom your body to a significant and reduced calorie consumption. What you're eating now is I'm sure very healthy, and I have no doubt that you're in good shape. But you won't get anywhere near that quantity or quality if you join the military.

With your current eating habits you're likely to go straight into starvation mode! You simply won't have either the time or resources to focus on such a luxurious or time consuming food consumption routine.

That breakfast of yours sounds great! What you'll get in the Legion is a bowel of Hot Chocolate (or Coffee) and a slice of Baguette with some Jam. And Thats all!!! Everything you seem dependent on now (cooked breakfasts, Protein shakes etc etc) just won't be available as you seem so used to. You need to address this issue immediately.

Food for thought hey?? lol

yes i have thought about that too but im gonna take sugardaddys advice. when it comes, it'll come. im well aware of the quality and quantity of food in the legion. i can adjust, i have done it before. if i get accepted im counting on losing about 12 kilos. i think i'll drop from 77 to approx 65 kilos. thanks though

[Nickfury]

I use a rough version of the "Warrior Diet" Works fine by me and I am used to going through large parts of the day on little more than a cuppa coffee (my breakfast) and some fruit. Maybe an egg now and then or just a basic smoothie of some fruits and veggies and yogurt. I really only eat a lot at night. Dropped about 13 KG's in the last year, adding muscle too, never felt better.

[Sugardaddy]

I am under the impression that once you are out of Castel the food is pretty good and nutritious in the regiments, malnutrition is well acounted for to break recruits.

FFL unlike the Brits or the US do not build soldiers from civilians it seems they try to break a civilian and start from scratch keeping him underfed makes him more obedient after 6 months its all he knows I say eat now worry later if you get in what will be the next opportunity to have a juicy stake or a protein shake with milk?
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[repman86]

I wonder what the little Gurkha wannabe's diet consists of before he even gets accepted into the British army, what sustains him running up and down the himalayas with bags of rocks on his back, (no special diet for him) look up 'good balanced diet' on google and it should come up with good cheap recipes to follow, nothing special just a balanced diet. **** me your all dieticians and physiotherapists:mad:

[repman86]

Ive seen your fots aurielie, you look fat.(are)

[fdw]

we don't use hormones in europe so u don't have to worry about that

also, buy a kilo of frozen chicken breast a day. £3 in tesco. add it to ur weekly shop and ur only spendin an extra £21 a week and thats like 200 grams of protein a day right there

[betrand]

we don't use hormones in europe so u don't have to worry about that

also, buy a kilo of frozen chicken breast a day. £3 in tesco. add it to ur weekly shop and ur only spendin an extra £21 a week and thats like 200 grams of protein a day right there

That's nearly £100 a month just for chicken? The rest inc. milk, bread, fruit, vegetables, fish etc. looking at nearly £300 a month just to eat? Sod that!

Do you buy the food in your house? :)

Cheap frozen chicken is going to be ex battery hens or worse. Nurtitionally they are a void, protein sure, but what else?

Its not just about the short term these days ..

I did some costing and decided I would buy Whey Isolate (high quality stuff) and eat a lot more organic legumes (tins of red kidney beans, organic black beans & lentils/chick peas are very cheap) and fortified eggs (£3.40 for 21) and cottage cheese.

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Got 1kg of the unflavoured on order, will let you know how it goes. I'll add a half scoop to my oatmeal in the morning, have a protein shake + 500 ml of milk and berries as a meal replacement after my workout and eat normally the rest of the day.

Note: This is obviously not Legion nutrition, I know. ;)

[Mise]

Aaaaaaaaggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! !!!!!!!!!

[joette]

We don't need half of what we eat.

Portion control is what they:rolleyes: say. I myself dont have the will power.

[fdw]

That's nearly £100 a month just for chicken? The rest inc. milk, bread, fruit, vegetables, fish etc. looking at nearly £300 a month just to eat? Sod that!

Do you buy the food in your house? :)

Cheap frozen chicken is going to be ex battery hens or worse. Nurtitionally they are a void, protein sure, but what else?

Its not just about the short term these days ..

I did some costing and decided I would buy Whey Isolate (high quality stuff) and eat a lot more organic legumes (tins of red kidney beans, organic black beans & lentils/chick peas are very cheap) and fortified eggs (£3.40 for 21) and cottage cheese.

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

Got 1kg of the unflavoured on order, will let you know how it goes. I'll add a half scoop to my oatmeal in the morning, have a protein shake + 500 ml of milk and berries as a meal replacement after my workout and eat normally the rest of the day.

Note: This is obviously not Legion nutrition, I know. ;)

Yes I do buy the food in my house, I spend under £200 a month on food and thats eating well.

The majority of the world doesn't have the luxury you appear to have of worrying about whether or not their food lived a happy life. Wanting to eat organic is really just food snobbery, most don't have that luxury.

[repman86]

A chicken is a chicken is a chicken, whether its been brought up by good people in 100 acres of country manor or 1000 to a square meter box and fed on pigshit, who gives a **** about them, or pigs or cows for that matter and not forgetting goats and sheep or fish (they have feelings) who gives a flick, they all end up in your belly then turn brown and come out your arse :D

[betrand]

Yes I do buy the food in my house, I spend under £200 a month on food and thats eating well.

The majority of the world doesn't have the luxury you appear to have of worrying about whether or not their food lived a happy life. Wanting to eat organic is really just food snobbery, most don't have that luxury.

I don't give a **** about the rest of the world, I care about my world and what I eat matters. I'm not going to eat crap and pay a premium for it as many do when it comes to 'supermarket' meat and veg. ;)

[Sugardaddy]

organic and not crap food is way overrated usually they are both the same different prices I for example cherish the hormones in my meat what I do is I never have processed meat like hams and stuff just pure meat that fell off from an animal, ups sorry I do have bacon. :)

[joette]

organic is noticably more expensive here.Alot of people cant afford it..unless you get food stamps.....:rolleyes::)

[repman86]

organic is noticably more expensive here.Alot of people cant afford it..unless you get food stamps....)

Berty can afford it :D he's a journalist.;):D

[repman86]

I don't give a **** about the rest of the world, I care about my world and what I eat matters. I'm not going to eat crap and pay a premium for it as many do when it comes to 'supermarket' meat and veg. ;)

What's wrong with sainsbury's :mad: all my tins of food come from there. :D

[betrand]

What's wrong with sainsbury's :mad: all my tins of food come from there. :D

I'm an ex-Journalist now .. quit a few months ago. Should update my profile to 'scrote'. :)

Sainsbury's are more expensive (they have really inflated prices for tinned stuff, especally tuna and the fresh fish) than ASDA and TESCO and the quality of their meat and veg is shit.

I'm guessing its regional though, based on distribution and sourcing ..

Sainsbury's cottage cheese is nice. Apparently.

In my limited experience of supermarkets (hate em, prefer proper markets) Waitrose is the dog's bollocks for 'nice' stuff. Haven't got one round here though. :(

[repman86]

I'm an ex-Journalist now .. quit a few months ago. Should update my profile to 'scrote'. :)

Sainsbury's are more expensive (they have really inflated prices for tinned stuff, especally tuna and the fresh fish) than ASDA and TESCO and the quality of their meat and veg is shit.

I'm guessing its regional though, based on distribution and sourcing ..

Sainsbury's cottage cheese is nice. Apparently.

In my limited experience of supermarkets (hate em, prefer proper markets) Waitrose is the dog's bollocks for 'nice' stuff. Haven't got one round here though. :(

Ill have to check that out, ill bet my wifes been going to tesco and pocketing the change, my meat comes from the local butchers and fish from the fishmongers or boats when my old skipper is back from a jaunt if im at home.

[joette]

It's the local Piggly Wiggly here..:D

[betrand]

Ill have to check that out, ill bet my wifes been going to tesco and pocketing the change, my meat comes from the local butchers and fish from the fishmongers or boats when my old skipper is back from a jaunt if im at home.

So you are an organic snob! If its snobbery to like fresh fish and buy your meat from local sources instead of celephane wrapped rubber in ASDA, then yeah, chalk me up as a snob too! :D

If I could I'd bag my own game as well ..

[Kitzingen]

I don't really get enough protein as it is I think, so I have a buddy of mine buy Nitrotech on post whenever he is there for me. It has about 20g per scoop, which hopefully makes up for my lack of natural protein that I eat during the day.

I would love to buy it all from the store, but money is kind of tight for that. Anyways, I'm wondering if this is still ok to take? I remember I used to take it all the time downrange, but when I got back I stopped taking it; even though I still went to the gym.

It seemed like I lost alot of muscle right away though. Is there a limit to how much protein one should be getting per day from protein supplements as opposed to natural?

[Pagoda_Warrior]

My Advice is to try and get your Protein through your diet naturally. If you are unable to do this for whatever reason then I'd suggest you make whey shake a few times a day. This recipe is a favorite of mine as it's not full of synthetic crap which is rarely used by your body! Keep it natural.

Whey Protein Breakfast Blast

Ingredients
3/4 cup frozen 365 Blueberries
1/2 banana
3 tablespoons 365 Vanilla Flavor Whey Protein Powder
1/2 cup skim milk (or non-dairy substitute)
2 teaspoons honey (optional)
3 ice cubes
1 tablespoon ground flaxseed


Method
In a blender, thoroughly combine berries, banana, protein powder, milk and honey by pulsing a few times. Add ice cubes and blend until very smooth. Pour into a 16-ounce glass and sprinkle with ground flaxseed.

Nutrition
Per serving (about 14oz/395g-wt.): 310 calories (30 from fat), 3.5g total fat, 1g saturated fat, 30mg cholesterol, 85mg sodium, 55g total carbohydrate (8g dietary fiber, 40g sugar), 20g protein

[betrand]

I don't really get enough protein as it is I think, so I have a buddy of mine buy Nitrotech on post whenever he is there for me. It has about 20g per scoop, which hopefully makes up for my lack of natural protein that I eat during the day.

I would love to buy it all from the store, but money is kind of tight for that. Anyways, I'm wondering if this is still ok to take? I remember I used to take it all the time downrange, but when I got back I stopped taking it; even though I still went to the gym.

It seemed like I lost alot of muscle right away though. Is there a limit to how much protein one should be getting per day from protein supplements as opposed to natural?

As Pagoda recommends, just take it once per day in the form of a shake, preferably with added berries and milk.

Its very important to read the label before you buy, as the vast majority of protein supplements are full of crap.

Best bet is whey, specifically isolate. I personally won't touch anything that has colourings, flavourings, artificial sweetners etc in it. Nor do I want creatine, caffeine, taurine etc.

The 100% pure whey isolate that's unflaovoured is FOUL but if you make a smoothie out of it with fruit and/or mix it into your other meals like oatmeal and gravy/sauces etc its fine.

Protein requirements depends entirely on your muscle mass and how often you are working out. It is recommended for an average adult male to get 50g a day. Atheletes or people who train 4-5 times a week need twice as much. Usually in the region of 100g up to as high as 200g for serious body builders.

There is a whole movement of quacks and quangos who say we should eat 1g per 1lb of body weight, per day. Mostly Americans ..

Ignore that shit. As long as you eat a balanced diet that includes some nuts, some dairy and plenty of whole grains you are fine with 3 meals a day based on the 50% carbs, 30% protein and 20% fat formula.

Example of a healthy diet for someone who is training regularly for the Legion but isnt body building:

Breakfast:

2 x hard boiled eggs
or
2 x whole eggs omlette with onion, red or yellow peppers and garlic
or
Oatmeal with blueberries and 20g of whey protein isolate

1 medium glass of orange juice (concentrate is fine but watch the sugar)

Mid Morning snack:

Banana, satsuma, apple, couple of large glasses of water (filtered ideally)

Lunch:

Tuna salad with olive oil dressing
or
Any fish you like or replace with chicken breast

Afternoon (after workout):

Protein shake,

Smoothie as Pagoda suggests. Chuck in some frozen berries, strawberries, raspberries, blueberries etc. Cheap enough from the frozen section of the supermarket. Banana is fine as its high glycemic index makes it good for post workout recovery. 50g of protein isolate powder OR 30g if you had 20g with your oatmeal option.

Evening meal:

1x lean Chicken breast, rinsed white rice or brown rice, mixed fresh or frozen vegetables e.g. brocooli, carrots, peas, beans etc. Plenty of garlic and soy sauce is fine. Ideally try to get in some legumes e.g. portion of kidney beans, black beans, chick peas, lentils etc.

Plenty of water. I use a Brita jug and get through 2 fill jugs a day. I like to 'load' h20 in the evenings when I am stretched out on the bed watching tv. Especially soon after eating ..

Still Hungry??
If you are still hungry after that lot have a bowl of low sugar cereal like Shreddies or Multi Cherios or Shredded Wheat etc. with 250ml skimmed milk.
or
Low Fat Cottage Cheese with more berries
or
Single serving of low fat organic yoghurt with some almonds or other nuts

That and variations on that provdes plenty of fibre and protein and nutrition. No need to go mad .. you can drink all the coffee and tea you like. I prefer green tea as regular black tea is full of pesticides and doesnt do you any good. Likewise coffee, unless is gourmet stuff, better off with organic green tea, nettle tea or something with nurtitional/antioxidant value. Always consider antioxidants as constant cell cycling and repair requires a lot more than sedentary people.

The guys who are eating salmon, tuna steak, chicken breasts etc are just over doing it. By all means eat em if you like but I cant afford it and my feelings on the health implications of intensively produced meat are well aired. ;) As for the bollocks of seperating egg yolks and eating egg whites for breakfast - thats pointless as 50% of the protein and the better half of the nutrition are in the yolk. Just dont eat eggs every day if you are concerned about cholesterol.

I don't eat any red meat at all .. I don't drink .. I dont smoke .. but you can do what you like at the end of the day. Finding your own balance is where its at. Oh and remember above all else, protein doesnt build muscles. Excerise does. :)

[Pagoda_Warrior]

Good Advice.

I like to keep it reasonably healthy and get my inspiration for healthy recipes from this website:

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if your really worried about whats in your protein you can go to [Only registered and activated users can see links] and make your own. You decide everything that goes into it from the source of protein to the sweetener etc etc. Powdered skim milk is also an excellant poor mans source of protein. Simply add it to your milk or some water for an extra bit.

[repman86]

Brekky,(7am)
Big mc breakfast followed by some fried bread 1ltr of coke, black forest gateau.

elevenses,(at 8 am)
Couple of pints of full cream milf with a double cream topping and another slab of black forest gateau finished off with a slice of fried bread, extra thick slice. (dipped in eggs before frying in dripping)

Snack(9am)
4 tins of guinnes, tub of ice cream with black forest gateau and a topping of double cream served on a thick slice of fried bread fried in dripping. 8 whopper sausages, (just to keep them hunger pangs at bay)

THIS IS WHERE YOU NEED TO STARVE FOR 2 HOURS UNTIL LUNCH.

Lunch(11am)
1/2 a pig(roasted) and a bucket of home made chips fried in lard. 4 slices of fried bread fried in dripping to mop up the grease from the chips and pig. (if your musilman coat the pig in goats blood before cooking.)

Aftrenoon snack(13.00)
2 24oz beef fillets fried in lard topped with double cream whisky sauce and carrots and roast potatoes fried in lard.

afternoon tea(14.00)
A cup of tea and a biccy ( you dont want to over do it with the biccies)

Dinner(16.00)
Couple of double cheesy whoppers and a large portion of french fries followed by a tub of ice cream.

Keep this diet up for at least 2 months prior to joining.

[betrand]

LOL!! You forgot the protein shake .. :D:D:D

[DannyJJ]

As for the bollocks of seperating egg yolks and eating egg whites for breakfast - thats pointless as 50% of the protein and the better half of the nutrition are in the yolk. Just dont eat eggs every day if you are concerned about cholesterol.

The cholesterol is in the egg yolks, there is absoloutly none in the whites.
Egg white analysis. ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Egg yolk analysis. ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

I remember watching a bodybuilding documentry on Ron coleman and he ate alot of whites in the morning with a few other things. Also my mates all swear by egg white for cheap protein. We are all in the same boat as you mate lol, can't afford none of that 40 pound per 992g super protein from Maximuscle, so we have to cut corners and find cheap alternatives.

[DannyJJ]

Haha Rep, legend mate!:D