3 REI video

[ibandic]

Six weeks in the green hell 1/5
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Cape Orange

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Rispolept-captain(D-DAY)

[Stoeng]

Not so shabby…
This is how you make soldiers, at least the base of soldering.
Not too much of “PowerPoint” and procedures.


For the “late arrivals”, take note that the oldest in the course was 37.:cool:

[CB123]

Not so shabby…
This is how you make soldiers, at least the base of soldering.
Not too much of “PowerPoint” and procedures.


For the “late arrivals”, take not that the oldest in the course was 37.:cool:



I'm so glad you managed to find a new career Stoeng ;)
And before someone gets upset and tells me what a great Adjutant you where I just want to say I said it in jest. And I read an old post that I'm trying to locate about your personal view of Swedes :D

[Stoeng]

Aghhh… Even Lopez was very “soft” in that video. Unfortunately they do not really film the sore reality and a few “behind scenes” clips would have been great.
Last time I did see Lopes he was still Staff Sergeant and much meaner than this.

[CB123]

But isn't that the jungle training course and not the 3 REI. I suppose that 3 REI have to go through the course as well, but it can't always be like that for the people stationed there? :)

[Stoeng]

Obviously it is not at all always like that.



However everybody that comes to 3REI must go thru a reduced version of this course. I have never been in 3REI and others can better explain than me. On the other hand, this course is just a bit more physical, but the basics remain the same.

Anyway I really think that somebody that is a private in a 3REI combat company, and have to carry his own pack together with a 20kg chain saw for weeks in the jungle, quite quickly gets the basics of soldering in to his little brain.

I think that most of the young civilians that are watching this video are probably completely missing the point.
The real training here is not the obstacle course; it is not the survival training, it is not carrying the “wounded” around. That is just crap that any physically fit weekend warrior can do.
The real training is the “Gospel” from A/C Lopez, and the chicken brains that gets 50% of it in to the top floor have already a much better chance of survival in an eventual conflict ANYWHERE in the world.

[CB123]

Obviously it is not at all always like that.



However everybody that comes to 3REI must go thru a reduced version of this course. I have never been in 3REI and others can better explain than me. On the other hand, this course is just a bit more physical, but the basics remain the same.

Anyway I really think that somebody that is a private in a 3REI combat company, and have to carry his own pack together with a 20kg chain saw for weeks in the jungle, quite quickly gets the basics of soldering in to his little brain.

I think that most of the young civilians that are watching this video are probably completely missing the point.
The real training here is not the obstacle course; it is not the survival training, it is not carrying the “wounded” around. That is just crap that any physically fit weekend warrior can do.
The real training is the “Gospel” from A/C Lopez, and the chicken brains that gets 50% of it in to the top floor have already a much better chance of survival in an eventual conflict ANYWHERE in the world.

I have no problem with A/C Lopez and think that he is the star of that show. Infact he is exactly how I think an old NCO should be. Correct, proffesional and always aware of the risks. He reminds me of an Marine Gunnery Sergeant I once ran into with 20 years experince. I am more concerned that I will run into some "greenhorn" that just got his stripes and is willing to go beyond to impress. But then of course I trust the Legion not to put such people into as dangerous of a situtaion as this.

[Stoeng]

I have no problem with A/C Lopez and think that he is the star of that show. Infact he is exactly how I think an old NCO should be. Correct, proffesional and always aware of the risks. He reminds me of an Marine Gunnery Sergeant I once ran into with 20 years experince. I am more concerned that I will run into some "greenhorn" that just got his stripes and is willing to go beyond to impress. But then of course I trust the Legion not to put such people into as dangerous of a situtaion as this.

Euhh… What ??

Are you completely out of your mind!?!?!

What on this godforsaken horrible little planet gave you this awfully miss-fostered little idea that you could have the slightest little misunderstood opinion about how your superior is eventually performing?

Leave the judgment of your superiors to those who are supposed to do that and concentrate on yourself.

Concentrate on how you are performing and you will see that things will be much better.

If you join the Legion with the faintest little fear of that somebody might be “bossing” you around, don’t worry your fears will materialize.

If you think that you will have the slightest little democratic opportunity to give your “highly” valued opinion about your superiors, I think we are on the wrong track.
You will quickly end up with a “pair of sunglasses” and lips that would make Eddy Murphy jealous.


It is great if you have “previous experience” but for goods sake keep it to yourself and use it to enhance your personal performances.
The Legion is full of ex this or ex that, but the last thing the Legion needs is “advise” from these “experts” especially in “management”.
One thing all these ex experts have in common is that they have all fu***d-up. If not they would all be highly appreciated NCO or officers in their pervious armies and not privates in Legion basic training.

[CB123]

Euhh… What ??

Are you completely out of your mind!?!?!

What on this godforsaken horrible little planet gave you this awfully miss-fostered little idea that you could have the slightest little misunderstood opinion about how your superior is eventually performing?

Leave the judgment of your superiors to those who are supposed to do that and concentrate on yourself.

Concentrate on how you are performing and you will see that things will be much better.

If you join the Legion with the faintest little fear of that somebody might be “bossing” you around, don’t worry your fears will materialize.

If you think that you will have the slightest little democratic opportunity to give your “highly” valued opinion about your superiors, I think we are on the wrong track.
You will quickly end up with a “pair of sunglasses” and lips that would make Eddy Murphy jealous.


It is great if you have “previous experience” but for goods sake keep it to yourself and use it to enhance your personal performances.
The Legion is full of ex this or ex that, but the last thing the Legion needs is “advise” from these “experts” especially in “management”.
One thing all these ex experts have in common is that they have all fu***d-up. If not they would all be highly appreciated NCO or officers in their pervious armies and not privates in Legion basic training.

:)

You missunderstood. I will be quiet as a mouse and soak up knowledge as a spunge. A grey man. As far as I know if you do your job correct you are doing your job and thats, that. And if you want to advance within an organisation you will have to do more than your job i.e "add value".

But a Boss is a boss and I have worked long enough to recognise good/bad .. and kept it to myself as I will continue to do so. And if I get a bad one, well there is nothing to do except endure. I understand and accept that. And I also understand that what I think is a bad boss might be someone elses idea of a great boss and that my personal opinions is completely irrelevant. And nothing I think I know or belive to be true will matter.

You realy do sell your soul to the Legion for 5 years when you sign on.

But hey if things were great in my life maybe I wouldn't plan on joining. And I have ****ed up a few things.

I saw another doucmentary yesterday about the RMC since there are so many members from here that has been with them.
They have big problems with recruits not passing the selections since this generation seems to be more aware of their indiviual rights. It's not that they are lazy and play playstation all the time , I know that I don't and the fact that they pass the initial physical screening should make them all capable of finishing the course.

It seemed more to do with the fact that blind obedience and not thinking for yourself is appreciated. I know that they are suposed to encourage individual thinking but following common rules and comands is still primere as it should, and they where discussing how to change their training rutine so that it is more suitable for this generation.

I have very little experience in this but was very interrested and have had a few "older school" proffesors at university voice the same complaints. Everyone has been brought up to think that they are unique and special, a line of thought that clashes thourougly with army ideals.
I know that the only people who think that I am " unique and special" are my parents , lol :)

Why I wanna join is partly because of boyhood dreams , but also because I belive that I would thrive and do well under such a strict system. ( as long as I can keep my mouth shut- looking at the length of this)

[Stoeng]

Naahhh… Don’t feel so attacked.

What you are saying obviously makes sense in a modern “corporate” environment (I live in such an environment every day, so please tell me about it).

Nobody in the Legion will stop you from coming up with a good idea, nobody will stop you from taking initiative; nobody will stop you from “adding value”, rather the contrary.

However please keep in mind that first of all you should learn the “Legion way of things”. After soon 200 years of existence the Legion have quite well fine tuned their ways of doing things, and if these things are not what you would expect them to be, it will be in 99.99% of the cases that it have simply been tried before and did not work.

One “Legion way” is that with its 130 nationalities from all kinds of life and backgrounds, one thing that is absolutely not tolerated, is questioning your superiors competences or aptitudes.

Maybe it is not always logic, maybe there are stupid and incompetent leaders, but one thing is sure, it is not your problem, and you are not allowed, even in your wildest fantasies to imagine that you can allow yourself the smallest comment about your superior. That is how it is, and that is all.

[CB123]

Naahhh… Don’t feel so attacked.

What you are saying obviously makes sense in a modern “corporate” environment (I live in such an environment every day, so please tell me about it).

Nobody in the Legion will stop you from coming up with a good idea, nobody will stop you from taking initiative; nobody will stop you from “adding value”, rather the contrary.

However please keep in mind that first of all you should learn the “Legion way of things”. After soon 200 years of existence the Legion have quite well fine tuned their ways of doing things, and if these things are not what you would expect them to be, it will be in 99.99% of the cases that it have simply been tried before and did not work.

One “Legion way” is that with its 130 nationalities from all kinds of life and backgrounds, one thing that is absolutely not tolerated, is questioning your superiors competences or aptitudes.

Maybe it is not always logic, maybe there are stupid and incompetent leaders, but one thing is sure, it is not your problem, and you are not allowed, even in your wildest fantasies to imagine that you can allow yourself the smallest comment about your superior. That is how it is, and that is all.

Thank you Adjutant Stoeng. I always read what you say but sometimes the translation disapears behind the flowery language. This time it is chrystal clear.

[Stoeng]

Flowery language ??

I was completely convinced that I have the most soft spoken Shakespearian English that any Oxford student would be proud of.:D:)

Ohhh... I will ask Nick for English lessons.

[Mise]

We had a Sgt. who, when being 'questioned' about some thing or other would hold his arms out like Christ on the cross and say "It's the system, my hands are tied, it's the system and you can't beat the system". We always said, that, his were the only hands on earth that took over 6' of rope to tie.

[Nickfury]

Flowery language ??

I was completely convinced that I have the most soft spoken Shakespearian English that any Oxford student would be proud of.:D:)

Ohhh... I will ask Nick for English lessons.


Can't help you, I think your English is better than mine. :D

[ibandic]

Rispolept-captain(D-DAY)
Rispolept=Pile(hemoroid)+sport

[suttongm]

Rispolept=Pile(hemoroid)+sport

How did you get unbanned for useless posts like the one I am reading now?

[Lewis123]

Aghhh… Even Lopez was very “soft” in that video. Unfortunately they do not really film the sore reality and a few “behind scenes” clips would have been great.
Last time I did see Lopes he was still Staff Sergeant and much meaner than this.

Thats bloody saying something haha

[Mise]

Who keep resurrecting these 2 and 3 year old posts. I nearly made a serious post 'til I saw I already had a year ago to the day.

[jonny]

Hi Stoeng,
I'm back,
Jonny