Security Checks

[arena]

Since the FFL does security check on the individuals who goes for the selection, how do they conduct these checks, do the ffl check with the interpol only? or does it check with the person's country authorities?
so will the person's country knows whether its citizen are joining the ffl?

[Ralf174978]

Since the FFL does security check on the individuals who goes for the selection, how do they conduct these checks, do the ffl check with the interpol only? or does it check with the person's country authorities?
so will the person's country knows whether its citizen are joining the ffl?
Yes, the FFL will check each candidate. :)

The DSPLE (Division de Securité et Protection de la Légion Etrangère), also called 2ème bureau or GESTAPO, works together with Interpol and other foreign services. This department works extremly actual.

[Beau-Sheep]

The B2 work with Interpol. If you are wanted by Interpol the B2 (Gestapo) WILL hand you over to them. No discussions no excuses no nothing, I know I seen a few dragged off.

[BobW]

You're asking too broad a question, Arena. Since you are from "Asia", this includes everything from Timor-Leste (former Portugese colony) to Bhutan. Think out the scenario. You board an airplane with your passport. You do not return in a year.

I like the Bruce Lee picture you use !

Warm regards,
BobW

[voltigeur]

Yes, the FFL will check each candidate. :)

The DSPLE (Division de Securité et Protection de la Légion Etrangère), also called 2ème bureau or GESTAPO, works together with Interpol and other foreign services. This department works extremly actual.Hi Ralf, are you sure they check with local autorities from other countries? I thought that could only happen through INTERPOL (privacy laws etc.)

[Ralf174978]

Hi Ralf, are you sure they check with local autorities from other countries? I thought that could only happen through INTERPOL (privacy laws etc.)I'm sure because I have a good friend who's actually working for the DSPLE. :p ;) :D :)

[voltigeur]

I'm sure because I have a good friend who's actually working for the DSPLE. :p ;) :D :)
At what point would they decide to check on a guy in his own country? or is it random checks.

[Ralf174978]

At what point would they decide to check on a guy in his own country? or is it random checks.
The inquiry by Interpol is a standard procedure concerning every candidate. ;)

When something's wrong, questionable or mysterious with the candidate's background (course of life, personal record) then the DSPLE will make further inquiries to national authorities from the candidate's native country.

For example what happens with candidates from Germany here are documents from the German Police (LKA = Landeskriminalamt) concerning a German (he has several previous convictions):

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[voltigeur]

The inquiry by Interpol is a standard procedure concerning every candidate. ;)

When something's wrong, questionable or mysterious with the candidate's background (course of life, personal record) then the DSPLE will make further inquiries to national authorities from the candidate's native country.

For example what happens with candidates from Germany here are documents from the German Police (LKA = Landeskriminalamt) concerning a German (he has several previous convictions):

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I get the question quite often if their record could be obtained from regular local police. Now I can reply with certainty.

[arena]

I'm a Singapore citizen and I had served in the Navy. As a Singaporean and a serviceman, we had oath to pledge allegiance and loyalty to Singapore. But I wish to experience a different life where I would be able to go into real combat and thus I'm interested in joining the FFL. However, I wish to return to Singapore after my service with FFL. But if Singapore knows that I served in the FFL before that means I broke my pledge and afraid I will be strip off my Singapore citizenship after service in FFL.
I got a clean record, no criminal offence, definitely not wanted by Interpol, so how?

[BobW]

Interpol is not a universal clearing house. It was as recently as 5 years ago that there was a bilateral agreement between Interpol and the World Customs Agency. After 9-11, so much is changing so fast, it's difficult to keep up with the changes. Syria is in Interpol so much USA liaison programs factored this in.
I cannot address FFL matters or the European nations in general other than to say if a security program is in place, it is all encompassing.

Warm regards,

BobW

[voltigeur]

They would not be able to find out if you served in the Legion unless you told someone. You get a new Legion Identity and you could keep it that way until you got back in civilian life. You can not use the Legion identity in civilian life.

[Pier Carlo]

"Existe dentro da Legião um órgão chamado B.S.L.E. (hoje D.S.P.L.E.), lá, colhe informações, alguns legionários o chamam de GESTAPO por mera brincadeira,......"

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[remem]

How far does their check go? They look up parents work, education, former employments, etc etc? Also i believe it might be hard for another outside your homenation organisation to know? Or is it just a criminal record check?

[Pier Carlo]

.....They look up parents work, education, former employments, etc etc? Also i believe it might be hard for another outside your homenation organisation to know? Or is it just a criminal record check?
To my knowledge, not only a criminal record check. Investigation on what you have declared at the entrance.... Very important: to tell the truth.

[BobW]

Chosen, Arena.

I'm going to say a few things not to give you answers but rather my recommendation on how you can obtain the correct information you seek and need.

A great way to get the correct - and current - answers is for you to join Alliance Francaise Singapore. I think they're located on Sarkies Street. They probably even have a web site. It's not free to join but very cheap with small fees for each of their programs. This is the place where you'll meet the people who know the answers to your questions.

Here is the answer to your question: yes. Please promise me you will NOT rely on what I just told you over the web. Meet in person with some Singaporians and French who have the experience and knowledge.

After a few months of attending Alliance Francaise programs, you'll probably have learned the answers to your question(s). Next, go to King's at National Stadium. Have a good meal with a couple of Tiger beers. Spend a day alone thinking. You will then know your next step.

After you try your first cognac when mingling with the French expats, you'll get hooked on the stuff and some French culture.

Si geon
BobW