Hand to hand combat!

[arrichion]

What kind of hand to hand combat system is used by the Legion (especially by REP). Does it contain components from wrestling, ju-jutsu, BJJ, sambo or something else. Or is it just a old fashioned kick in the nuts?

[Fish_Sauce]

What kind of hand to hand combat system is used by the Legion (especially by REP). Does it contain components from wrestling, ju-jutsu, BJJ, sambo or something else. Or is it just a old fashioned kick in the nuts?Why do u think running is of uttermost importance in Aubagne? :D haha I AM JKINGGGGGG lol

[kiwi]

*Claps* Bravo! another stunning performance by Fish Sauce!

[ace_compton]

Really Fish Sauce... That was so helpful to the topic... May as well go fishy. You don't provide anything to this board, apart from pissing ppl off, go away and crawl back under that rock you came from.

[slimness]

What kind of hand to hand combat system is used by the Legion (especially by REP). Does it contain components from wrestling, ju-jutsu, BJJ, sambo or something else. Or is it just a old fashioned kick in the nuts?In my time the type of defence you used was down to whoever was instructing you, ive seen all methods used.

[sikter]

Military Krav Maga maybe?

[Beau-Sheep]

We did train but they never put a name on it.
Rule number one: if you are in a position where you have to fight your enemy hand to hand, it means "plan A" really ****ed up!

[legion hopefull]

Legion-itsu :D

[Krechnek]

What kind of hand to hand combat system is used by the Legion (especially by REP). Does it contain components from wrestling, ju-jutsu, BJJ, sambo or something else. Or is it just a old fashioned kick in the nuts?Don't know anything about the Legion's combat system, but know that many other units are very found of shootfighting. Pretty new style from the 40's. Lots of components from sambo, Thai boxing, wrestling and others. Just try to ignore the backpain you'll get... :)

[Eagle eye]

Don't know anything about the Legion's combat system, but know that many other units are very found of shootfighting. Pretty new style from the 40's. Lots of components from sambo, Thai boxing, wrestling and others. Just try to ignore the backpain you'll get... :)I knew that the Viking in you would show through eventually on this board... :)

[Krechnek]

I knew that the Viking in you would show through eventually on this board... :)Just have to rock the boat sometimes, Eagle ;). As a "fish-smelling ex-submariner" and not to forget "a woman who can't fight" (no names mentioned) I know I probably belong somewhere else. However.... :D

[Beau-Sheep]

I prefer the tried and tested "run away" method myself. I stand by what I said : if you are that close to the enemy without any bullets or pyrotechnics someone in your section has dropped a bollock! Modern warfare should have little of the eye gauging of yore. 5.56jitsu never fails. Self-defence? Learn to steal bullets!
Seriously, as slim said it's up to who is teaching you, I heard mention of something called the naked art, a cpl in my section was forever trying to sell it to us, as krec said it's a combination of everything that's nasty.

[BobW]

The American Army once taught "hand to hand" combat but circa the Vietnam era changed the name and subject matter to "combatives". The old "hand to hand" course was kept but added was the bayonet used as a dagger. Also added was the garrot, eg wire and thin straps (like from a helmet) used to strangle.

I appreciated reading Sikter's mention of "MILITARY" Krav Maga. The first rule in NON-military Krav Maga is to escape. Military operations frequently do not allow for this.

My recommendation for anyone starting out in this field is to practice with full field gear on ("Kit" in British English). Otherwise, time is being wasted.

Warm regards,
BobW

[Eagle eye]

Just have to rock the boat sometimes, Eagle ;) As a "fish-smelling ex-submariner" and not to forget "a woman who can`t fight" (no names mentioned) I know I probably belong somewhere else. However.... :DWho ? Me? :o Honest ! :I ain't got a problem with anyone who volunteers for national service and in submarines and karate chops...I enjoy your audacity in your trajectory and "rocky" comments on this board. Chapeau...and just you keep swinging that Viking battleaxe of yours from time to time...we'll all duck...and never mind Beau Sheep: he knows he ain't got no manners...

[arrichion]

The Legion does not have a "Combat Hand to Hand System". There is no name on it. It depends who you have in your section as instructor. IF the Sgt. has prior Legion combat self-defence skills, he sure will teach you something of it. A former boxer will teach you some boxing skills, a Sgt. or Caporal who was a wrestler or judoka before the Legion, will teach you some of his stuff, a knife fighter (Philipino) will teach you knife tactics etc. I could go on and on....there is always soemone, in every section, in every Compagnie and Regiment who knows some sort of effective self defence skill.
But you shout not worry about it too much... Remember you got a FAMAS and a bayonet. If you let the enemy that close to you, you are in deep shit already and your whole platoon was either sleeping or you have been over run by a huge enemy force. Your hand-to-hand combat skills will not do you much good then anyway.
So in closing I will say that don't worry about hand-to-hand combat. It is ridiculous even thinking about it. You learn what you need doing your time in Castel. Do you really think, when you are at combat and got 90 pounds of equipment to carry, you are an effective hand-to-hand fighter anymore ? Be realistic.
I was just curious. I think it is necessary to teach hand to hand combat to soldiers. It is a good character and spirit builder. That`s it.

[kiwi]

I was just curious. I think it is necessary to teach hand to hand combat to soldiers. It is a good character and spirit builder. That`s it.That is like saying a Builder should learn how to Tie or Glue a House Together!
So long as he has a working hammer/nailgun and enough nails, there shouldn't be any need to resort to the above.

[jasonmartin1993]

I asked the same question. Don't listen to these people, it is important for a soldier to know hand to hand combat for many resones. Such if you are on a covert mission and you need to take someonedown silent. It might seem easy just put knife in his back and cover his mouth, but it is not that simple. Plus anything can happen in the field. Why do they teach greek special forces crossbow manvouers? You never know. If you want to be trained just to shot a gun and take cover, join up with a paintball team, but if you want to learn to become an elite soldier join the legion or try out for a special forces in your own country. Also, I don't know what hand to hand system name the legion uses, but I've seen videos of 2reg doing hand to hand exercises. Someone emailed me and said it's called Corps to Corps or Corps aux corps. He might be wrong though.

[steve]

as long as it bloody works and gives you something over the c#nt you are hammering.....

[core]

Situations like these to get so close to an enemy happen so rarely these days like once in a million and they don't happen because that was the tactic but they happen acidentaly, and even if they happen you wont have much use of hand to hand combat if the enemy is holding a AK47. By the way guards are taken down with snipers these days silently.

[steve]

one in a million is good for me....haha

[rickyhimalayan]

I havent seen any offical hand to hand combat training yet in my regiment, though one of our sargent tried to teach us some techniques,that was good

on 4 of july , regiment do kind of demonstration in front of civil, but all that is chreographed and practiced weeks before the event,

People here practice combat sports by there own , after working hours,

[Cpl K]

The video was of the 2°REI :D

Hey Ricky good to see you still there, not an easy place to live...

Cpl K...