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hannibal
11th September 2005, 12:46
Hi Peter,

Since I can't find anymore on this forum the thread about Indochinese soldiers in the 5th Legion Etranger, I am sending you the promised numbers here.

Here are the casuaties for the French-Thai war as at 01.05.1941 :

French:
Officers: killed 4, wounded 10, missing 1

European NCOs: killed 7, wounded 21, missing 3

Indochinese NCOs: killed 5, wounded 4, missing 2

European soldiers: killed 13, wounded 48, missing 31

Indochinese soldiers: killed 69, wounded 79, missing 24


Langson Battle, 30.10.1940 :

Officers: killed 9, wounded 3

European NCOs: killed 4, wounded 4, missing 1

Indochinese NCOs: killed 1, missing 7

European soldiers: killed 21, wounded 21, missing 22

Indochinese soldiers: killed 5, wounded 7, missing about 1000


The European casualties in 1945 (done in 1947 - nothing about Indochinese casualties, I am afraid)

French (Europeans): killed 1262 and missing 857 -> 199 officers, 598 NCOs & 1322 soldiers.

Peter Lyderik
11th September 2005, 15:12
Hannibal

Thanks a lot for the info. What are your sources, by the way?

Greetings Peter

hannibal
11th September 2005, 20:56
Claude Hesse d'Alzon: "Guerre 1939-1945. La Presence Militaire Francaise en Indochine (1940-1945)"; Chateau de Vincennes: Service Historique de l'Armee, 1985 [French Official History].

This is a Bible about French Army in Indochina 1940-45. ;)
By the way Peter you don't have by any chance Ernst Frey's book, do you? Also have you read in Murray's papers about Lieutenant Elyseev? He says that Elyseev wrote his memoires after the war. I couldn't find anything in the Library of Congress, could you?

Peter Lyderik
12th September 2005, 05:59
I don't have Frey's book, and never heard of the other.

hannibal
12th September 2005, 09:23
I don't have Frey's book, and never heard of the other.
It doesn't mind now. I have just found her. Lieutenant Elyseev has indeed written his memoires about his time fighting against the Japanese in Indochina 1940-45, but the book is in Russian. Interestingly or not (as for who), but he also wrote at least two other books, including his World War 1 memoires. He namely was in a command of a Kuban Cossack cavalry regiment on the Caucausus Front 1914-17, fighting against the Turks. :)

Peter Lyderik
12th September 2005, 10:01
Ahh, those White Russians. They sure got around. :)